2016-17 mens bb begins journey

[Bookin' Panther]

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During my teaching days, i was told that posters could not be put up in h.s. classrooms (a form of recruiting) but m.s./jr. level was OK. Of course, I always saw many Hawkeye posters throughout the h.s. Guess they didn't count. LOL!

[95UNIGRAD]

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During my teaching days, i was told that posters could not be put up in h.s. classrooms (a form of recruiting) but m.s./jr. level was OK. Of course, I always saw many Hawkeye posters throughout the h.s. Guess they didn't count. LOL!

My understanding is that you can't do that if you're a season ticket holder (falls under the recruiting thing), but it's fine if you're not.

[PantherChic]

My understanding is that you can't do that if you're a season ticket holder (falls under the recruiting thing), but it's fine if you're not.

Is this printed somewhere? My cousin is a high school math teacher who always gets posters. So does this also mean a high school teacher can't wear college clothing?

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[Panthers to the Bone]

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http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=26534

Ken Pomeroy preseason rankings came out. UNI listed at #2 in MVC.

[95UNIGRAD]

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Is this printed somewhere? My cousin is a high school math teacher who always gets posters. So does this also mean a high school teacher can't wear college clothing?

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Back when I was a season ticket holder for football (5-6 years ago), I seem to remember reading that season ticket holders were considered boosters. However, I found this on the internet, and season ticket holders aren't mentioned in that way.

http://sidearm.sites.s3.amazonaws.co...ons.pdf?id=147

Even if they are a booster, I would say whatever they want to put up in their classroom or wear is fine, as long as they aren't actively recruiting a kid to go to UNI (or doing something else illegal from the brochure). I'd hate to make a kid ineligible for an athletic scholarship because of their contact with someone, so that's why I brought it up. Nothing wrong with being a fan of a team, but I'd never talk to an athlete at my school to get them to go to UNI - don't want to mess anything up for them by not fully understanding what they can be penalized for.

[UNIAlum2010]

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Ken Pomeroy preseason rankings came out. UNI listed at #2 in MVC.

I have a Kenpom subscription and it is well worth the $20/year. He has us predicted to go 16-10 (12-8 MVC). The number of games is low because he won't predict after the 1st round of the MTE and doesn't include the MVC tourney.

We are also favored currently in every single MVC game except Wichita x2 and @ISUred.

[GonzoCat]

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I have a Kenpom subscription and it is well worth the $20/year. He has us predicted to go 16-10 (12-8 MVC). The number of games is low because he won't predict after the 1st round of the MTE and doesn't include the MVC tourney.

We are also favored currently in every single MVC game except Wichita x2 and @ISUred.

We are favored in all but 3 games but are predicted to lose 8? Am I missing something?

[Wudizzle]

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We are favored in all but 3 games but are predicted to lose 8? Am I missing something?

If some of them are say UNI win probability 52%, that is favoring UNI, but he doesn't expect that UNI will actually win all of those games. Maybe only half of them.

[Panther AC]

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We are favored in all but 3 games but are predicted to lose 8? Am I missing something?

We play each of the other nine teams twice, so 18 total Valley games. Should his prediction be 12-6?

[GonzoCat]

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If some of them are say UNI win probability 52%, that is favoring UNI, but he doesn't expect that UNI will actually win all of those games. Maybe only half of them.

Yeah, okay, that makes sense. Lost my statistical abilities for a minute there. If we have a 66% chance of winning every game we would be favored in all of them and come out 12-6.

What is WSU's projected record?

['70 Grad]

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Has anybody been to practice? Any comments as to who may get a lot of minutes this year besides returning starters & Klint? I know some starters are likely set, but who are the others & who are the likely back-ups & is anyone the first back-up at more than one position?

Guess I can wait until Friday.

Also - wondering if Jake will do line-change substitute patterns like a few years ago. I'm guessing we are fairly deep this year. (A lot better than last year!! )

[UNIAlum2010]

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We play each of the other nine teams twice, so 18 total Valley games. Should his prediction be 12-6?

You are correct, should have read 12-6 in conference.

The rest is below:

Wichita - 15-3
UNI - 12-6
ISUred - 11-7
Evansville - 9-9
MSU - 8-10
SIU - 8-10
ISUblue - 8-10
Loyola - 7-11
Bradley - 6-12
Drake - 6-12

I think his ratings are too high on Evansville and I expect Loyola to be better than 8th.

[Wudizzle]

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Yeah, okay, that makes sense. Lost my statistical abilities for a minute there. If we have a 66% chance of winning every game we would be favored in all of them and come out 12-6.

What is WSU's projected record?

I don't have a subscription, but if I recall from what someone posted on the WSU board he had 24-5 (15-3). That doesn't include the last two B4A MTE games. I think the only game WSU wasn't favored was @OU.

Personally, I think that's a little optimistic. I'd be quite happy with 24 regular season wins, even including the other 2 MTE games. All about how quickly things come together this year, and how well the new guys can avoid land mines. One of the best attributes the past few years was that those guys weren't going to lose to Drake et. al. They just weren't. They took every game seriously. It's possible that the ceiling is actually higher the next couple of years, but learning how to do that is important. It's how you go 16-2 instead of 13-5.

[UNIAlum2010]

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I don't have a subscription, but if I recall from what someone posted on the WSU board he had 24-5 (15-3). That doesn't include the last two B4A MTE games. I think the only game WSU wasn't favored was @OU.

Personally, I think that's a little optimistic. I'd be quite happy with 24 regular season wins, even including the other 2 MTE games. All about how quickly things come together this year, and how well the new guys can avoid land mines. One of the best attributes the past few years was that those guys weren't going to lose to Drake et. al. They just weren't. They took every game seriously. It's possible that the ceiling is actually higher the next couple of years, but learning how to do that is important. It's how you go 16-2 instead of 13-5.

Kenpom has Wichita #34 overal (70th adj offense/10th adj defense/298 Tempo). You are correct that you are favored in every game except OU (40% chance to win). @UNI is the next toughest at 55%. He has Wichita overall at 24-5 (15-3) not counting the other 2 MTE games as you mentioned.
Battle for Atlantis they would be favored over LSU, Old Dominion and St Johns but underdogs to VCU, Baylor, Louisville, Mich St.

Depending on who they get in Atlantis they are a heavy favorite in nearly every non-conference game. Wichita has 1 tier A game (OU) and 1 tier B game (OSU).

[Wudizzle]

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Kenpom has Wichita #34 overal (70th adj offense/10th adj defense/298 Tempo). You are correct that you are favored in every game except OU (40% chance to win). @UNI is the next toughest at 55%. He has Wichita overall at 24-5 (15-3) not counting the other 2 MTE games as you mentioned.
Battle for Atlantis they would be favored over LSU, Old Dominion and St Johns but underdogs to VCU, Baylor, Louisville, Mich St.

Depending on who they get in Atlantis they are a heavy favorite in nearly every non-conference game. Wichita has 1 tier A game (OU) and 1 tier B game (OSU).

How does he distinguish the tiers? Combination of his ranking and H/N/A? Do you know where the cut lines are? Also, I don't intend to make this a WSU thread. How does the UNI non-con fit on that scale? I know there are at least a couple that would have to be tier A.