2016-17 mens bb begins journey

[Wudizzle]

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Does anybody remember what Pomeroy predicted for the MVC games in the NCAA tourney last year?

If my understanding of kenPom is correct (very questionable), the whole thing is a predictor, not a 'ranking'. So theoretically, given neutral court settings, kenPom #50 would be favored over kenPom #51 every time, even if just 50.5% to 49.5%. In which case, WSU would have been favored in all three games, and UNI would have been the dog in both games.

[CyCarp]

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Lehigh keeping it pretty tight at Xavier tonight, 5 point game under 2 min left.

[CyCarp]

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Anybody tuned in? Lehigh down 3 with the ball, 17 sec left.

[sevelev711]

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So remember when everyone who's not a rational MVC follower started predicting that Illinois State could challenge Wichita, and that they'd finish "second, maybe even first"? Yeah, they lost to Murray State.

[catsize]

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So remember when everyone who's not a rational MVC follower started predicting that Illinois State could challenge Wichita, and that they'd finish "second, maybe even first"? Yeah, they lost to Murray State.

AT Murray State, by 3 points. Not exactly an easy opener. Go ahead and write them off, I guess...

[claw]

AT Murray State, by 3 points. Not exactly an easy opener. Go ahead and write them off, I guess...

A MVC title contender should not lose to Murray State

[UNIhoops]

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Doesn't Ill. St. have some good players suspended or hurt?

[sivert]

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Suspendable, but not suspended

[catsize]

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A MVC title contender should not lose to Murray State

Really? What about at home to Colorado State? Or Richmond? Or Loyola? Or Tulsa?

Do we really have any idea how good or bad ANY team will be this year?

If we lose to Arizona State, does that write us off as any chance of competing for a championship?

[claw]

Doesn't Ill. St. have some good players suspended or hurt?

Nope. Full strength. Had 3 guys arrested in the last month but none were suspended.

[panther-state]

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Nope. Full strength. Had 3 guys arrested in the last month but none were suspended.

Yeah, they learned their lesson by missing a practice or exhibition game

What an embarrassing program

[SteinPizza]

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A MVC title contender should not lose to Murray State

Really...on the road? That's a decent program, and they're bound to have some talent left over from when Prohm was there.

[SHOCKvalue]

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Really...on the road? That's a decent program, and they're bound to have some talent left over from when Prohm was there.

Perhaps the better question is what is a supposed top level MVC team doing playing a non-con road game at an OVC program?

Does UNI willing play road games like that? I'm assuming no. I'm trying to come up with the last time WSU played a non-con road game against a team outside of the P-5, BE, A10, AAC, or MWC, and I'm coming up blanks.

I say all this as someone who'd be thrilled to dump freaking LUC or Drake for Murray.

[UNIDebo]

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Perhaps the better question is what is a supposed top level MVC team doing playing a non-con road game at an OVC program?

Does UNI willing play road games like that? I'm assuming no. I'm trying to come up with the last time WSU played a non-con road game against a team outside of the P-5, BE, A10, AAC, or MWC, and I'm coming up blanks.

I say all this as someone who'd be thrilled to dump freaking LUC or Drake for Murray.

Yeh I'm pretty sure Jake would look at a game like Murray.

Had a couple series and entertaining games with VCU and George mason.

For the red birds Losing @ murrary isn't terrible at all, They've been good for awhile.

[CyCarp]

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Yeh I'm pretty sure Jake would look at a game like Murray.

Had a couple series and entertaining games with VCU and George mason.

For the red birds Losing @ murrary isn't terrible at all, They've been good for awhile.

Exactly, they're are a lot of worse series that could be put together. Heck, I'm sure UNI would have done a series with Murray this year with the way the schedule ended up.