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  • #31
    Originally posted by BrockLesnar View Post

    Yeah, but it's a wasted opportunity. It also doesn't develop your team. You get better by playing better teams. We have the non D 1s because nobody will play us.
    Playing a 250+ team does **** all as far as developing and hurts your metrics.

    A D3, for a MM program, is a better option than a third of the D1 teams out there - many even on a competitive level - from a metric stand point.

    This isn't the FCS where we play 7 ranked teams in conference so the idea of playing a couple super low end FCS teams makes all the sense in the world (which is why we don't do it). It's the reason the P5/6 will play OOC sos of 280+. They play 15 top 50 games in conference play and the other 3-5 in conference games are top 125. They can absorb the hit of playing a NET 250+ 4 times and have no impact on them.

    Having to throw UE, or worse, on our NET another 2 times a year beyond what we might already have, would crush our NET/RPI numbers

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    • #32
      Originally posted by clenz View Post

      Playing a 250+ team does **** all as far as developing and hurts your metrics.

      A D3, for a MM program, is a better option than a third of the D1 teams out there - many even on a competitive level - from a metric stand point.

      This isn't the FCS where we play 7 ranked teams in conference so the idea of playing a couple super low end FCS teams makes all the sense in the world (which is why we don't do it). It's the reason the P5/6 will play OOC sos of 280+. They play 15 top 50 games in conference play and the other 3-5 in conference games are top 125. They can absorb the hit of playing a NET 250+ 4 times and have no impact on them.

      Having to throw UE, or worse, on our NET another 2 times a year beyond what we might already have, would crush our NET/RPI numbers
      Yup. not that hard to understand. Scheduling as a MM sucks. Sure we could probably do it a little better but eventually you need home games. In this flawed system. D3 is the easiest way to get it.

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      • #33
        I'll always be in the camp that I'd rather schedule like we do than the way Jank and Marty used to. I'd rather have a puncher's chance than to relegate yourself to having to win in StL from before the start of the season.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by BCPanther View Post
          I'll always be in the camp that I'd rather schedule like we do than the way Jank and Marty used to. I'd rather have a puncher's chance than to relegate yourself to having to win in StL from before the start of the season.
          Yep. Go into conference play having won a bunch against a real strong OOC and give yourself a shot at an AL with the metrics being high to start. The flip side is you go into conference play needing the AQ anyway, but doing so with twice the testing/experience as others in the conference with how they schedule SOS.

          Taking away your chance at an AL before you even tip the first game of the season is just silly

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          • #35
            Originally posted by clenz View Post

            Playing a 250+ team does **** all as far as developing and hurts your metrics.

            A D3, for a MM program, is a better option than a third of the D1 teams out there - many even on a competitive level - from a metric stand point.

            This isn't the FCS where we play 7 ranked teams in conference so the idea of playing a couple super low end FCS teams makes all the sense in the world (which is why we don't do it). It's the reason the P5/6 will play OOC sos of 280+. They play 15 top 50 games in conference play and the other 3-5 in conference games are top 125. They can absorb the hit of playing a NET 250+ 4 times and have no impact on them.

            Having to throw UE, or worse, on our NET another 2 times a year beyond what we might already have, would crush our NET/RPI numbers

            I really hope you’ve got this saved so you can copy/paste. Seems like you have to educate people on this monthly.

            Curious… Would it be possible for someone to take the 2021-22 schedule and replace the D-II/D-III/NAIA games with 250-325 NET teams to see what would have happened to our NET? I’m sure there’s a site out there, I’m just not as familiar as others on here.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by FOTY View Post


              I really hope you’ve got this saved so you can copy/paste. Seems like you have to educate people on this monthly.

              Curious… Would it be possible for someone to take the 2021-22 schedule and replace the D-II/D-III/NAIA games with 250-325 NET teams to see what would have happened to our NET? I’m sure there’s a site out there, I’m just not as familiar as others on here.
              I do feel like I point that out more than I should

              I've done some playing with Torvik, but it's not giving me the data I want. There is a site out there that has metrics like that to play with, but I lost the bookmark when I built my new PC last year and I can't remember what it is but I'm still searching.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by clenz View Post

                Playing a 250+ team does **** all as far as developing and hurts your metrics.

                A D3, for a MM program, is a better option than a third of the D1 teams out there - many even on a competitive level - from a metric stand point.

                This isn't the FCS where we play 7 ranked teams in conference so the idea of playing a couple super low end FCS teams makes all the sense in the world (which is why we don't do it). It's the reason the P5/6 will play OOC sos of 280+. They play 15 top 50 games in conference play and the other 3-5 in conference games are top 125. They can absorb the hit of playing a NET 250+ 4 times and have no impact on them.

                Having to throw UE, or worse, on our NET another 2 times a year beyond what we might already have, would crush our NET/RPI numbers
                I was pointing out we're forced into the D3 games. We're stuck with it and have been since the late 70's.I don't want some SWAC team just to get home games. Again, we're stuck with garbage because good teams won't even give us a road game. Maybe, one would, but doesn't move the needle due to it being a loss. The D3 is garbage because it doesn't count on the metrics other than record. The D3 is called an opportunity cost. The fans don't show up for them, as well. The dregs in the MVC are given and have always dragged the metrics and always will. We can't escape the garbage.
                Last edited by BrockLesnar; 03-28-2022, 03:18 PM.

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                • #38
                  The locals will show up for Wartburg or Dubuque more than god damn Mississippi Valley State, Jackson State, Austin Peay, North Dakota, Omaha, etc.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by clenz View Post
                    The locals will show up for Wartburg or Dubuque more than god damn Mississippi Valley State, Jackson State, Austin Peay, North Dakota, Omaha, etc.
                    And they cost $7500 instead of $50,000....

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by clenz View Post

                      Playing a 250+ team does **** all as far as developing and hurts your metrics.

                      A D3, for a MM program, is a better option than a third of the D1 teams out there - many even on a competitive level - from a metric stand point.

                      This isn't the FCS where we play 7 ranked teams in conference so the idea of playing a couple super low end FCS teams makes all the sense in the world (which is why we don't do it). It's the reason the P5/6 will play OOC sos of 280+. They play 15 top 50 games in conference play and the other 3-5 in conference games are top 125. They can absorb the hit of playing a NET 250+ 4 times and have no impact on them.

                      Having to throw UE, or worse, on our NET another 2 times a year beyond what we might already have, would crush our NET/RPI numbers
                      Agree.

                      Adding Mississippi Valley State instead of Dubuque will make zero difference.

                      Get yourself some good P6 games in the preseason and win a couple. That's what matters. More quad 4 D1 games aren't gonna help your tourney chances.
                      Winning is more fun than losing.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Blue42 View Post

                        Agree.

                        Adding Mississippi Valley State instead of Dubuque will make zero difference.

                        Get yourself some good P6 games in the preseason and win a couple. That's what matters. More quad 4 D1 games aren't gonna help your tourney chances.
                        Oh it makes a big difference. That is why we play D3

                        And usually put together a very tough non con

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                        • #42
                          Playing at Virginia on November 14th for $80,000.

                          That's a REALLY good game for us.

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                          • #43
                            One would have to assume Richmond and UVA will be on the same road trip, right? Similar to where we took the buy game at Colorado since we were already playing at Grand Canyon and made it one trip.

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                            • #44
                              Iowa fans will be shocked to hear we annually build a great schedule without there gracious olive branch.... haha

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Wxcpanther View Post
                                One would have to assume Richmond and UVA will be on the same road trip, right? Similar to where we took the buy game at Colorado since we were already playing at Grand Canyon and made it one trip.
                                And similar to the Richmond/George Mason trip we did a few years ago, I believe 2015. GM in the DC suburb of Fairfax and Richmond two hours south. Might have to make that east coast trip again to see Spiders and Cavaliers.

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