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  • #16
    Originally posted by Panther AC View Post

    FWIW, I spoke to Wes' dad at several UNI home games. He was decked out in UNI gear and spoke highly of Wes' enjoyment of the program and his teammates. He also made sure I knew his other son was leading the A10 conference in blocked shots at that time. Obviously, Wes is the one to make the decision, but his dad seemed all in on the Panthers.
    This is good to hear

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    • #17
      Yeah. Myles isn't maybe quite the offensive player but he's one of the best shot blockers in the nation this year. He's been really good on defense. Hopefully Wes can do some of that too.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by PantherAlum09 View Post
        Yeah. Myles isn't maybe quite the offensive player but he's one of the best shot blockers in the nation this year. He's been really good on defense. Hopefully Wes can do some of that too.
        It's very strange to me, he is 2nd in the country in block %, but has only played more than 20 minutes 8 times all season. He does foul some, roughly 6/40 minutes so about 3 in those 20ish minutes he gets, but it seems like a guy that valuable defensively should be spending more consistent time on the floor.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Wxcpanther View Post

          It's very strange to me, he is 2nd in the country in block %, but has only played more than 20 minutes 8 times all season. He does foul some, roughly 6/40 minutes so about 3 in those 20ish minutes he gets, but it seems like a guy that valuable defensively should be spending more consistent time on the floor.
          He blocks shots but his body isn't ready yet. He really gets pushed around by older guys. Wes is much more solidly built at this point.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by achrist70 View Post
            I mean Nate is our leading scorer, second leading rebounder, leading in assists, blocks and has 30 steals. Sounds like a guy you would want to stick around.
            I heard parts of this past games’ radio broadcast. JW Cox seemed to imply that this was probably Heise’s last regular season game. It was a vague hint, not firm, so could’ve been interpretation too.

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            • #21
              I don’t see any point to any of these guys leaving. They aren’t NBA-material, so what would someone like Heise gain from leaving? Go ride the pine at a power 5 school? For what? I think some of you guys lose sight of the fact these are college kids. They have family here, friends, girlfriends. They may *actually like the school* and the program. If they are getting minutes and aren’t NBA material, there is very little upside to transferring. Even if they are NBA material, they can still make it at UNI if they are really that good (hi, AJ!). And correct me if I’m wrong but he’s the only player in school history who has actually been able to do that.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by QCPanther05 View Post
                I don’t see any point to any of these guys leaving. They aren’t NBA-material, so what would someone like Heise gain from leaving? Go ride the pine at a power 5 school? For what? I think some of you guys lose sight of the fact these are college kids. They have family here, friends, girlfriends. They may *actually like the school* and the program. If they are getting minutes and aren’t NBA material, there is very little upside to transferring. Even if they are NBA material, they can still make it at UNI if they are really that good (hi, AJ!). And correct me if I’m wrong but he’s the only player in school history who has actually been able to do that.
                Good amounts of money can make people do lots of things, again, if the price is right. Who knows though? That's what people like Heise have to weigh. Do you warm the bench for money or do you want to play your last year?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by kochrab View Post

                  Good amounts of money can make people do lots of things, again, if the price is right. Who knows though? That's what people like Heise have to weigh. Do you warm the bench for money or do you want to play your last year?
                  Heise is good enough to see plenty of minutes at a P6 school, and probably for significantly more NIL money than UNI can pay. Nobody is going to pay him to ride the bench for one year, but he’s better than that.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by SteinPizza View Post

                    Heise is good enough to see plenty of minutes at a P6 school, and probably for significantly more NIL money than UNI can pay. Nobody is going to pay him to ride the bench for one year, but he’s better than that.
                    I think he's a coin flip for next season. He can get better prospects in Europe by playing for a power 6. Good for him. He's been a good one and I'd be happy for him. I'm not sure if he would fit in with the Gophers, but he can start for a last place power 6.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by QCPanther05 View Post
                      I don’t see any point to any of these guys leaving. They aren’t NBA-material, so what would someone like Heise gain from leaving? Go ride the pine at a power 5 school? For what? I think some of you guys lose sight of the fact these are college kids. They have family here, friends, girlfriends. They may *actually like the school* and the program. If they are getting minutes and aren’t NBA material, there is very little upside to transferring. Even if they are NBA material, they can still make it at UNI if they are really that good (hi, AJ!). And correct me if I’m wrong but he’s the only player in school history who has actually been able to do that.
                      Heise is more than most definitely good enough to be a 2nd to 3rd option on a p5 school lol. He has good shooting, defense, size, and athleticism. He added playmaking this year which has really elevated his stock.

                      He might not be an NBA player, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have professional aspirations that are impossible.

                      My main point in all of this is Nate is an incredibly versatile player that can almost go anywhere and have an impact which most UNI players do not have that type of versatility. That being said, I don't think he's so important to UNI's success that his departure cannot be overcome.

                      He's a do it all machine, but when you're that type of player without an exaggerated advantage over the rest of the team in those specific categories, it makes it a lot easier to make up in the aggregate.

                      I will say his ability to play in the mid 30s minutes this year while often being the primary ball handler and defender on the best player may be overlooked by me just because conceivably I could see Campbell doing the same thing.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by kochrab View Post

                        Good amounts of money can make people do lots of things, again, if the price is right. Who knows though? That's what people like Heise have to weigh. Do you warm the bench for money or do you want to play your last year?
                        The chance of making the NCAAs could be enticing as well. Heck, only need to win half your conference games at a P6 and you're in!

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                        • #27
                          Oh good, the Nate Hesie is leaving us with zero actual reason to think so bull**** starts early this year

                          Last year it was a single throw away line in a single CycloneFanatic post that got this board all riled up about Bowen and Nate for 4 months with zero evidence or reason to believe any of it - in fact the opposite was true where there was plenty of social media posts/activity to prove it all entirely made up but this board wouldn't let it go. This year we didn't even hit the end of the season before someone started it.

                          Good times coming for this place, I'm sure.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by SteinPizza View Post

                            Heise is good enough to see plenty of minutes at a P6 school, and probably for significantly more NIL money than UNI can pay. Nobody is going to pay him to ride the bench for one year, but he’s better than that.
                            Considering Jake confirmed only Cole Henry wasn't slated to come back and use any extra years right now I'd venture anything you're reading into anything JW said is very much you reading into it. Especially as it comes to him transferring. If it was going to go "pro" through Europe or the NBA (and it isn't the NBA) and JW knows and is comfortable saying so in his broadcast I'd have guessed he would have gone through a senior night setup.

                            If you post the audio in question maybe I'd change my opinion after listening to it.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by clenz View Post
                              Oh good, the Nate Hesie is leaving us with zero actual reason to think so bull**** starts early this year

                              Last year it was a single throw away line in a single CycloneFanatic post that got this board all riled up about Bowen and Nate for 4 months with zero evidence or reason to believe any of it - in fact the opposite was true where there was plenty of social media posts/activity to prove it all entirely made up but this board wouldn't let it go. This year we didn't even hit the end of the season before someone started it.

                              Good times coming for this place, I'm sure.
                              lol you always kill me. It’s an offseason thread and while I concur to not rush to panic, most are just acknowledging the possibility given reality and human nature .

                              Last year he was coming off an injury and the incentive for him to leave or test the waters probably wasn’t worth it to take a leap. He not only proved he was the player he was, but improved and became the team’s best player. He has size, athleticism, shooting and ball handling skills that make him slot on nicely to about about any team in the country making him a very marketable asset at the moment and it could be the right time for him to further himself.

                              Now, that in no way means he’s a forgone conclusion or even likely to leave. He could really love it here. He could value being close to home. He could have a lot of attachment to his current teammates and wants to ride it out with them next year. Maybe the Panther Collective is enough to incentive him to not take chances elsewhere. These are all things that could be true as well. But we are ignoring reality if we don’t think he’s gonna have some looks this off-season far beyond what any cyclone message board has to say.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Username View Post

                                lol you always kill me. It’s an offseason thread and while I concur to not rush to panic, most are just acknowledging the possibility given reality and human nature .

                                Last year he was coming off an injury and the incentive for him to leave or test the waters probably wasn’t worth it to take a leap. He not only proved he was the player he was, but improved and became the team’s best player. He has size, athleticism, shooting and ball handling skills that make him slot on nicely to about about any team in the country making him a very marketable asset at the moment and it could be the right time for him to further himself.

                                Now, that in no way means he’s a forgone conclusion or even likely to leave. He could really love it here. He could value being close to home. He could have a lot of attachment to his current teammates and wants to ride it out with them next year. Maybe the Panther Collective is enough to incentive him to not take chances elsewhere. These are all things that could be true as well. But we are ignoring reality if we don’t think he’s gonna have some looks this off-season far beyond what any cyclone message board has to say.
                                Then let's spin the rumor mill up for every single player on the team based on super vague things that we are projecting our own fears and feelings into.

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