2024 Offseason

[ronfitch]

We should be able to have rational discussions moving forward again

Your optimism is noted and appreciated, Chad.

[clenz]

Interesting stuff on the board lately. Yes, we'd love to have a 15-20 point a night DI transfer sign. But that is going to be incredibly hard for UNI (and many mid majors) - P6 schools will always get first shot and then we have to compete with high mid majors with what seems to be not a lot of NIL money. Our path is going forward (portal-wise) seems mainly to be 1) find good DI players not being utilized who value playing time over $ and 2) find occasional underrated talent at D2. If we can get high scorers who like our staff, culture or whatever, then sure, make a play for them.

The main thing is that it's way too early for doom and gloom --I'm still fairly optimistic:

Bond - if he have signed him, awesome...I'm excited. An ACC caliber recruit and they don't sign non-athletes (well, under 7 feet) and he was Wisconsin Division 1 All-State First Team in HS. Just a sophomore -serious upside here.

Schweiger - 6-7 G/F...surprisingly played sparingly this last season as a Soph and seems to have lost time to 2 DI transfers that came in. Fan comments on their boards are positive - praise his effort, attitude and character. Great freshman year: A-10 All-Rookie Team, 9.2ppg, 35% on 3's. Could be like Hutson and go from being lost in the shuffle to an effective starter.

Weisbrod - 84 3 pointers made(39%), 80% FT, POY in DII conference as a SOPHOMORE. Yes, D2 transition is tricky to predict but players have been successful before. Kid sounds skilled and has had ball in his hands in late game situations.

I'm really hopeful to see the development of last year's freshmen; all were very highly regarded recruits. I enjoyed watching Taylor's pesky defense and despite limited time, his A/TO ratio was really good. Pock faded out a bit but has such a sweet shot. They have a year of practices, travel, games and just learning what DI is all about. I'm also excited to see how they improve and where Rubin is at and what his game is.

Having Trey, Hutty and especially Tytan back is solid. This may be a run-out-2-hockey-lines kind of year or maybe we have a team where 5+ guys can score double digits regularly with a different leader every night. Or maybe the defense tightens even more...?

Another PG would be great (if Taylor or Trey get hurt, yikes!), but let's see who else decides to go Purple!

I agree with all of this.

We aren't in a position to land anyone scoring 10+ ppg at the D1 level. The cut-off for us the D1 market is the "hasn't produced a ton yet, but has a bunch of potential upside". A guy like Bond is a prime example of that. Some low/mid-majors have been productive but haven't shown the potential high upside that is going to get them money from someone else.

I know a big phrase that has been used is "game breaker" which makes it sound like we are looking for that D1 version of Max Weisbrod. What we (or at least I) mean by that is a guy that can create their own shot, slash, and alter what a defense is doing to give more spot-up guys their opportunities. Those guys are tough to find but they are out there. I'm fine with Schweiger as a piece to the larger roster makeup. The handwringing over him is much more a "we just purged our roster of 5 guys exactly like him and building the roster back with the same mold of what we got rid of isn't good". We need more guys with the ability to be more than a roll player.

Guys like Washpun aren't going to fall into our laps anymore, we all know this. However, with 1800 kids in the portal there are Washpun like guys out there to build a roster with rather than "let's put 9 kids on the roster from the Cedar Valley and extended Des Moines metro"

[PantherAlum09]

In line for $75k-$80k to play at UNI? If so, this would be the first time I have seen numbers for UNI (does not mean that they are not commonly known, I just have not seen any).

Without divulging too much info or putting anyone in a weird circumstance, I feel like that is about the most I can say. I could also be way off and have no clue. I don't actually know anything.

One thing I can say is that this is not what NIL was supposed to be, but is absolutely what NCAA should've expected. I'm all for setting up some sort of standard for this system, but I'm not holding my breath.

[clenz]

Without divulging too much info or putting anyone in a weird circumstance, I feel like that is about the most I can say. I could also be way off and have no clue. I don't actually know anything.

One thing I can say is that this is not what NIL was supposed to be, but is absolutely what NCAA should've expected. I'm all for setting up some sort of standard for this system, but I'm not holding my breath.

Who is to say this isn't what the NCAA knew would happen and why they initially fought against all of this? They then lost in court, time and time again, so now they essentially just get to sit there and go "Well, this is what you asked for so enjoy it.". Legally they can do almost nothing.

[krusej23]

Interesting stuff on the board lately. Yes, we'd love to have a 15-20 point a night DI transfer sign. But that is going to be incredibly hard for UNI (and many mid majors) - P6 schools will always get first shot and then we have to compete with high mid majors with what seems to be not a lot of NIL money. Our path is going forward (portal-wise) seems mainly to be 1) find good DI players not being utilized who value playing time over $ and 2) find occasional underrated talent at D2. If we can get high scorers who like our staff, culture or whatever, then sure, make a play for them.

The main thing is that it's way too early for doom and gloom --I'm still fairly optimistic:

Bond - if he have signed him, awesome...I'm excited. An ACC caliber recruit and they don't sign non-athletes (well, under 7 feet) and he was Wisconsin Division 1 All-State First Team in HS. Just a sophomore -serious upside here.

Schweiger - 6-7 G/F...surprisingly played sparingly this last season as a Soph and seems to have lost time to 2 DI transfers that came in. Fan comments on their boards are positive - praise his effort, attitude and character. Great freshman year: A-10 All-Rookie Team, 9.2ppg, 35% on 3's. Could be like Hutson and go from being lost in the shuffle to an effective starter.

Weisbrod - 84 3 pointers made(39%), 80% FT, POY in DII conference as a SOPHOMORE. Yes, D2 transition is tricky to predict but players have been successful before. Kid sounds skilled and has had ball in his hands in late game situations.

I'm really hopeful to see the development of last year's freshmen; all were very highly regarded recruits. I enjoyed watching Taylor's pesky defense and despite limited time, his A/TO ratio was really good. Pock faded out a bit but has such a sweet shot. They have a year of practices, travel, games and just learning what DI is all about. I'm also excited to see how they improve and where Rubin is at and what his game is.

Having Trey, Hutty and especially Tytan back is solid. This may be a run-out-2-hockey-lines kind of year or maybe we have a team where 5+ guys can score double digits regularly with a different leader every night. Or maybe the defense tightens even more...?

Another PG would be great (if Taylor or Trey get hurt, yikes!), but let's see who else decides to go Purple!

This is a great write up on these new players and the team we bring back. I feel like there was so much of "the sky is falling" mood in here and that Coach Jake wasn't a good enough coach to coach in this world of NIL and transfers anymore. Patience is a great thing and our coaches came through and proved themselves. We got some good players coming in and we have some good ones returning from last year that really improved over last season. I'm excited.

[PantherAlum09]

Who is to say this isn't what the NCAA knew would happen and why they initially fought against all of this? They then lost in court, time and time again, so now they essentially just get to sit there and go "Well, this is what you asked for so enjoy it.". Legally they can do almost nothing.

That's also very likely true. Good point.

[Mudrafan]

I agree with all of this.

We aren't in a position to land anyone scoring 10+ ppg at the D1 level. The cut-off for us the D1 market is the "hasn't produced a ton yet, but has a bunch of potential upside". A guy like Bond is a prime example of that. Some low/mid-majors have been productive but haven't shown the potential high upside that is going to get them money from someone else.

I know a big phrase that has been used is "game breaker" which makes it sound like we are looking for that D1 version of Max Weisbrod. What we (or at least I) mean by that is a guy that can create their own shot, slash, and alter what a defense is doing to give more spot-up guys their opportunities. Those guys are tough to find but they are out there. I'm fine with Schweiger as a piece to the larger roster makeup. The handwringing over him is much more a "we just purged our roster of 5 guys exactly like him and building the roster back with the same mold of what we got rid of isn't good". We need more guys with the ability to be more than a roll player.

Guys like Washpun aren't going to fall into our laps anymore, we all know this. However, with 1800 kids in the portal there are Washpun like guys out there to build a roster with rather than "let's put 9 kids on the roster from the Cedar Valley and extended Des Moines metro"

We literally just did with Ben Schwieger. As a freshman, he averaged 9.2 ppg w/ 4 rpg & was 3rd on the team (Loyola) in scoring. Got recruited over a year ago. He's going to be a significant addition. He's 6-7 & shot 35% from 3.

[BobCat]

We literally just did with Ben Schwieger. As a freshman, he averaged 9.2 ppg w/ 4 rpg & was 3rd on the team (Loyola) in scoring. Got recruited over a year ago. He's going to be a significant addition. He's 6-7 & shot 35% from 3.

Yeah, I was posting in support as some expressed concerns that he only played 10 games and under 2ppg last year. To your point, original post SHOULD have said something like15+ not 10...typo on my part.

[unifan]

Any truth to this?

https://x.com/sports_talker1/status/1784985482012532801?s=46&t=nycR8_QhDMvzBamJTPjZog

[BCPanther]

Any truth to this?

https://x.com/sports_talker1/status/...DMvzBamJTPjZog

Yes. It's done. Just waiting on an announcement.

[unifan]

Yes. It's done. Just waiting on an announcement.

Should be a big get!

[CyCarp]

Well, well, well...

[krusej23]

Coach Jake really talked up Hornseth on the podcast.

[orangetennis]

Coach Jake really talked up Hornseth on the podcast.

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[krusej23]

Link? Characters

https://art19.com/shows/uni-panther-pep-talk/episodes/8b094a25-bf23-46f7-aea0-25ae1d67f5dd