Two FBS opponents in 2013???

[Trapped in California]

Re: Two FBS opponents in 2013???

Ball St does not have $300K more cost than UNI.

[bobsboy84]

Re: Two FBS opponents in 2013???

[QUOTE=jegbomb52;241646]If the year was 2006, without Iowa's pre-season hype, Iowa vs UNI at Kinnick would have more butts in seats than would Iowa vs Ball State. Any Iowa fans that are "too good" to go to the UNI game would be "too good" to go to the Ball State game.

Also, it is none of Iowa's concern what the opposing teams traveling cost are. It makes zero difference, zip, zilch, nodda, Iowa writes the check, thats it. Everything else is up to the traveling school. Who is going to get paid more to do a one time trip to Kinnick, Missouri, or Stephen F Austin? Missouri would of course, thats because they demand it.[/QUOTE]

It should be SFA because they have further to travel?

[GonzoCat]

Re: Two FBS opponents in 2013???

$40 tickets x 56000 folks = 2,240,000.

$60 (all conference games) tickets x 37,333 folks = 2,240,000. (Averaged 41,666 last year for conference games).

$90 (Nebraska) x 48,794 (last time they hosted them) = 4,391,460.


As to the wisdom of only charging 40 dollars for noncon games, I can't really speak to that. I think they probably should charge more for UNI and Utah for example. I do think we'd see a lot fewer tickets sold at 60 bucks a pop - we're probably talking at least 100 more dollars for a family to go to the game then.

That said, I am supportive of this move and I think UNI should schedule 2 FBS games that give them the maximum amount of take home dollars to lower the dependence on the state for Athletic Department money. And for the record I think ISU should be doing the same as well and I expect they will be off the teat within a year or two.

What you are not taking into account is the fact ISU has to give those teams a return game for every home game and they make nothing for the return game. I'm assuming the B12 doesn't have some sort of ticket sales revenue sharing arrangement, and even if they did it wouldn't matter.

UNI is definitely the most profitable game on ISU's schedule and probably Iowa's as well. Did Iowa cut the ticket price for the UNI game?

[GonzoCat]

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I think travel costs figure into it as well. Ball St. has to come in all the way from Muncie, IN while UNI buses it down to Iowa City (and Ames). Also Ball State is bringing more people than UNI is since they are an FBS school.

It costs a lot less to travel than some of you think, not to mention it is irrelevant, as Jeg points out. Ball State does not bring any more people than UNI if both game are sold out.

[CincyPanther88]

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It costs a lot less to travel than some of you think, not to mention it is irrelevant, as Jeg points out. Ball State does not bring any more people than UNI if both game are sold out.

I'm actually talking about personnel, not fans.

[9YRPLAN]

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UNI is NOT iowa's most profitable or popular game.

i am guessing that UNI is willing to take less money because 1) they are FCS and 2)they want the in-state exposure. the game certainly benefits UNI as well.

[Panther-Sheik]

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i am guessing that UNI is willing to take less money because 1) they are FCS and 2)they want the in-state exposure. the game certainly benefits UNI as well.

This. Also, contrary to what many might think, according to many of the a.d.'s at UNI, it costs a very significant amount of $$ to travel to somewhere like BYU or Florida. The comment I have heard directly from their mouths is that the net amount of playing Iowa / ISU is nearly the same as playing at BYU, but as 9yr said, we get a lot of "perks" by playing close to home against another in-state school.

[jegbomb52]

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This. Also, contrary to what many might think, according to many of the a.d.'s at UNI, it costs a very significant amount of $$ to travel to somewhere like BYU or Florida. The comment I have heard directly from their mouths is that the net amount of playing Iowa / ISU is nearly the same as playing at BYU, but as 9yr said, we get a lot of "perks" by playing close to home against another in-state school.

In a time when when our livelyhood is being threatened, can we afford to have "nearly" the same amount netted by playing Iowa and Iowa State? What is nearly? $30,000? $40,000? I would like to think any less than that we would just say it is the same amount. Also, if we go further away we don't need to take the band, there is another $10-15,000 in our pocket.

Simply playing Iowa or ISU does nothing for us. We are not stealing any ISU recruits because we played them or beat them, we are not stealing any Iowa recruits because we almost beat them, we are not even stealing their walk ons. We are past feeling good about playing Iowa and ISU, this is about the bottom line, period. We need to make money, if we can net an extra $25,000 by playing Oregon State then God $&#(&# we need to do it. Our Athletic department is not getting $25,000 worth of good by playing ISU.

[djb]

Re: Two FBS opponents in 2013???

$50-100k for plane charter and travel expenses -if you can get a big school to pay out $800K like some are currently paying you can still net twice as much as the annual in state game.

[UNI83]

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$50-100k for plane charter and travel expenses -if you can get a big school to pay out $800K like some are currently paying you can still net twice as much as the annual in state game.

Agreed. There just isn't a ton of BCS schools willing to pay a ton of money for FCS games anymore.


If we get more from schools not named Iowa and Iowa State we have to take it though.

[Trapped in California]

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I would say one of the reasons the $ amount is a bit lower is that we have contracts for the next, what is it, 8 years? Certainty is worth something.

[GonzoCat]

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UNI is NOT iowa's most profitable or popular game.

i am guessing that UNI is willing to take less money because 1) they are FCS and 2)they want the in-state exposure. the game certainly benefits UNI as well.

Well I never said it was the most popular with the fans, but sold out is sold out. Now tell me which games are more profitable. Don't forget to divide the revenue in half for all the B10 games and preseason games with BCS opponents where there is a return game involved. Don't forget to subtract out their travel costs to those return games either. I guarantee you Iowa spends double what UNI does to travel for a game.

[GonzoCat]

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Agreed. There just isn't a ton of BCS schools willing to pay a ton of money for FCS games anymore.

Link? Sounds like an opinion, not backed up by any evidence. And do not quote me supply and demand please, the NCAA is not a free market by any stretch of the imagination.

The idea that the money is going to dry up because a couple conferences are going to be playing one more conference game ignores the fact the payouts were large just a few years ago when they played an 11 game schedule instead of 12. The money did not go up when they added a game.

Iowa takes in about $4 million in revenue for every home game. They pay out between $400K for UNI to a million depending on who they bring in, and that isn't going to change because they have one less non-con game.

[GonzoCat]

Re: Two FBS opponents in 2013???

I'm actually talking about personnel, not fans.

Sorry for misunderstanding. Still doesn't make it a relevant fact. Iowa, nor any other BCS team, does not care what their opponent spends to travel to play them. It does not figure into what they pay the opponent.

[UNI83]

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Link? Sounds like an opinion, not backed up by any evidence. And do not quote me supply and demand please, the NCAA is not a free market by any stretch of the imagination.

The idea that the money is going to dry up because a couple conferences are going to be playing one more conference game ignores the fact the payouts were large just a few years ago when they played an 11 game schedule instead of 12. The money did not go up when they added a game.

Iowa takes in about $4 million in revenue for every home game. They pay out between $400K for UNI to a million depending on who they bring in, and that isn't going to change because they have one less non-con game.

I'll find the numbers, it will take a little looking though. I'd bet the average pay game is around $400-550K for a BCS school (so yes we are getting "screwed" by Iowa and Iowa State), and the average for non BCS games is probably under 300K.


I know for a fact JMU got 450K from VaTech