Two FBS opponents in 2013???

[JD720]

Re: Two FBS opponents in 2013???

If the JTS crowd is anything like the past two time we were there, it is not costing them anything to play us. Their crowds against UNI were about 10k over their average. 300k payout /$40 per ticket is only 7,500 fans and does not include concessions or parking.

[djb]

Re: Two FBS opponents in 2013???

See the link for article about fbs/fcs games

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20100919/SPORTS020702/9200306/1095/SPORTS0207/College-football-Northern-Iowa-could-feel-the-squeeze

[djb]

Re: Two FBS opponents in 2013???

Someone in the midwest that is easier for fans /families can travel unless it is a huge payout. Maybe Kansas as Farley has some communication with them due to Jake. See link - seems SDSU is getting $375 for NU (don't think they anticipated NU's current strength when they booked) Don't know why Idaho and W KY would get so much more. I think SD got $500 for the Central FL trip. Maybe if non BCS FBS schools are demanding more it will up the market for strong FCS programs.

http://huskerextra.com/sports/football/article_b5ed727f-7919-56e0-a7fb-fc634ef4b4c4.html

[djb]

Re: Two FBS opponents in 2013???

Would try to get one big FBS game for maximum payout and let the hawks/clones find another chump to play for 300. It is BS that they are cutting general fund when they are underpaying imo for this annual game. I'm guessing they get plenty of UNI fans to fill up their stands where they might not if they were bringing in a non-regional opponent (expecially ISU).

An interesting study on payouts.

http://csri-jiia.org/documents/puclications/research_articles/2010/JIIA_2010_3_11_194_210_pay_for_slay.pdf

[UNIpanther99]

Re: Two FBS opponents in 2013???

Would try to get one big FBS game for maximum payout and let the hawks/clones find another chump to play for 300. It is BS that they are cutting general fund when they are underpaying imo for this annual game. I'm guessing they get plenty of UNI fans to fill up their stands where they might not if they were bringing in a non-regional opponent (expecially ISU).

An interesting study on payouts.
http://csri-jiia.org/documents/pucli...y_for_slay.pdf

I don't mind being slightly underpaid for Iowa and Iowa State FB games. Those games are great state-wide exposure for UNI (remember, most of our students, athletes, and donors come from Iowa), and it shows us on equal footing with our fellow regents schools. Does that exposure make up the $100K more that we might get at BYU or Arkansas or somewhere like that? I don't know.

[GonzoCat]

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I don't mind being slightly underpaid either, although ISU has underpaid more than slightly the past few games. What I don't appreciate is some jackass from the register calling them our sugar daddies doling out appearance money as if we are just preseason tune up fodder for the big boys.

We are probably the most profitable game on each of their schedules and have demonstrated clearly that we can compete with either one on the field.

[Trapped in California]

Re: Two FBS opponents in 2013???

Damn, Ball St. is getting $800,000 to play at Iowa this year?!?

They are more likely to lose than UNI. Worse team = bigger payout, generally.

[djb]

Re: Two FBS opponents in 2013???

good point - I was overlooking the exposure and recruiting aspect of the UI/ISU game.

[BryceC]

Re: Two FBS opponents in 2013???

We are probably the most profitable game on each of their schedules and have demonstrated clearly that we can compete with either one on the field.

Highly unlikely - usually ticket prices are lower for the UNI game.

[UNI83]

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Highly unlikely - usually ticket prices are lower for the UNI game.

Someone would have to do that math BUT...what is a the total for 56,795 at $40 dollar tickets (I realize not all paid the 40, but for arguments sake do it), and what attendence would it take for that amount to be equaled at a normal rate game at Iowa State.


If that ticket is the cheapest, ISU is retarded as the largest crowds in Iowa State history have been against UNI.

[BryceC]

Re: Two FBS opponents in 2013???

Someone would have to do that math BUT...what is a the total for 56,795 at $40 dollar tickets (I realize not all paid the 40, but for arguments sake do it), and what attendence would it take for that amount to be equaled at a normal rate game at Iowa State.


If that ticket is the cheapest, ISU is retarded as the largest crowds in Iowa State history have been against UNI.

$40 tickets x 56000 folks = 2,240,000.

$60 (all conference games) tickets x 37,333 folks = 2,240,000. (Averaged 41,666 last year for conference games).

$90 (Nebraska) x 48,794 (last time they hosted them) = 4,391,460.


As to the wisdom of only charging 40 dollars for noncon games, I can't really speak to that. I think they probably should charge more for UNI and Utah for example. I do think we'd see a lot fewer tickets sold at 60 bucks a pop - we're probably talking at least 100 more dollars for a family to go to the game then.

That said, I am supportive of this move and I think UNI should schedule 2 FBS games that give them the maximum amount of take home dollars to lower the dependence on the state for Athletic Department money. And for the record I think ISU should be doing the same as well and I expect they will be off the teat within a year or two.

[ubuntuCAT]

Re: Two FBS opponents in 2013???

$40 tickets x 56000 folks = 2,240,000.

$60 (all conference games) tickets x 37,333 folks = 2,240,000. (Averaged 41,666 last year for conference games).

$90 (Nebraska) x 48,794 (last time they hosted them) = 4,391,460.


As to the wisdom of only charging 40 dollars for noncon games, I can't really speak to that. I think they probably should charge more for UNI and Utah for example. I do think we'd see a lot fewer tickets sold at 60 bucks a pop - we're probably talking at least 100 more dollars for a family to go to the game then.

That said, I am supportive of this move and I think UNI should schedule 2 FBS games that give them the maximum amount of take home dollars to lower the dependence on the state for Athletic Department money. And for the record I think ISU should be doing the same as well and I expect they will be off the teat within a year or two.

How many season ticket holders are there? Wouldn't it be more accurate to remove those?

If there's 30k season tix holders:
UNI game (56,795 - 30,000) x $40 = $1.07M
Avg conf (41,666 - 30,000) x $60 = $700K

[ronfitch]

Re: Two FBS opponents in 2013???

Minnesota and Kansas.

Mr. Brewster (or Maturi) said after losing to USD that they no longer wish to play the Dakota schools. Something about they don't "recruit" those areas so there is no incentive to play small market teams.

After the "play not to win but rather to not lose as bad as some think we will while taking no risks" coaching performance against a somewhat average USC team, it looks like they have little incentive to play ranked teams, either. Brewster's days are probably numbered at Minnesota. Maturi may get swept out as well, given the expectations for the program with a new stadium to promote.

UNI traveled to Minneapolis back in the mid-'80s to play the Gophers in the Metrodome. I was not there, but from what I recall, UNI played them very close and had a good following in attendance. A few more seasons of mediocre play and Minnesota may look to schedule teams which can bring fans with them.

The new stadium is a very nice place to spend a September afternoon in Minneapolis (as is the new Twins stadium, if scheduling would allow).

[CincyPanther88]

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They are more likely to lose than UNI. Worse team = bigger payout, generally.

I think travel costs figure into it as well. Ball St. has to come in all the way from Muncie, IN while UNI buses it down to Iowa City (and Ames). Also Ball State is bringing more people than UNI is since they are an FBS school.

[jegbomb52]

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I think travel costs figure into it as well. Ball St. has to come in all the way from Muncie, IN while UNI buses it down to Iowa City (and Ames). Also Ball State is bringing more people than UNI is since they are an FBS school.

If the year was 2006, without Iowa's pre-season hype, Iowa vs UNI at Kinnick would have more butts in seats than would Iowa vs Ball State. Any Iowa fans that are "too good" to go to the UNI game would be "too good" to go to the Ball State game.

Also, it is none of Iowa's concern what the opposing teams traveling cost are. It makes zero difference, zip, zilch, nodda, Iowa writes the check, thats it. Everything else is up to the traveling school. Who is going to get paid more to do a one time trip to Kinnick, Missouri, or Stephen F Austin? Missouri would of course, thats because they demand it.