Honest question

[95UNIGRAD]

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Did Ferentz suddenly discover his "genius" again this season? Where did it go the past few seasons? In remission?

Ferentz stopped going to the same conservative offense with a QB that couldn't (or wasn't allowed to) throw downfield, and went with a dynamic playmaker this year. Night and day difference. Leave it to Ban to grab a perfect example of how a change in coaching philosophy proves results to argue that coaches aren't as important as players.

[formerwalkon]

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Ban - you stated "what if other teams have finally caught up to us?"
That is a piss poor excuse to accept mediocrity. If a coach lets other teams "catch" them they should be shown the door. Teams don't stall, and words of Farley, "you are either getting better or worse, never staying the same."

[claw]

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Ferentz stopped going to the same conservative offense with a QB that couldn't (or wasn't allowed to) throw downfield, and went with a dynamic playmaker this year. Night and day difference. Leave it to Ban to grab a perfect example of how a change in coaching philosophy proves results to argue that coaches aren't as important as players.

FWIW

Left side is Rudock last season and right side is CJB this year...not a ton of difference (re: almost none)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRJ5uqJU8AErj5F.jpg

Okay. that link makes it really small. I'll link to the tweet on it. I don't follow the account, but it popped up through a retweet on my timeline last night and seems timely on this topic

https://twitter.com/hawkeyegamefilm/status/653718739439874048

[Cap'n Cat]

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Outdoor stadium.

[ProwlingPanther]

Best post ever^^^^

[ban basketball]

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Honest question here Ban, what are your expectations for the Panthers programs that you follow? Are you pleased with .500? Post season play? An all-american every five years, conference title? What would make you critical of a program that you follow? Would a 2-6 home dual season upset you? I'm serious, I would really like to hear your take.

What are my expectations? Given that it is extremely tough for UNI to compete with Iowa and Iowa State for money and recruits, I take that into account and hope that our teams do the best with the fewer resources that we have.

Wit that said, and because I actually played sports my whole life and in college I understand that a coach/coaches can NEVER be held 100% responsible for a team's losses; the players have responsibility as well, which NO ONE seems to ever acknowledge, except for when the teams are winning, then it is ALL the players who are responsible.

What else do I expect? I expect that I know that teams have up and down years and that I'm not going to jump ship and abandon my team because they either aren't winning or I'm having a temper tantrum over a coach that I'm overly blaming for the team's pitfalls.

Can't say it any better than that. I'm a Panther fan through thick and thin and I'm never going to jump ship or pull my loyalty because I'm too stupid to see that it isn't solely the coaches that are making losses occur. Cheer for the hometown boys, by God!

[ban basketball]

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Harbaugh has the same players at Michigan that Brady Hoke did with the exception of Jake Rudock, who failed to impress at Iowa. Michigan is the scariest team in the Big Ten right now. The only real difference between this year and last year is the Head Coach, Jim Harbaugh. Urban Meyer had the same team as Luke Fickell. Only difference the Head Coach. Meyer has lost 3 games in 3.5 years.

So, what happens when they start doing poorly? The coaches? What about NDSU's former coach? What happened there?

[ban basketball]

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Look at Iowa state football if people would quit going to watch that crap they would probably have a new coach already. It is darn obvious Rhodes isn't the answer.

Yeah, but he was a GENIUS! after season one. Did he suddenly get worse or something?

[ubuntuCAT]

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Have you entertained the possibility that other teams have just caught up to us finally?

How can a coach change the course of events, as they are happening, on the field? if coaches played THAT MUCH of a role, then why has NDSU's former coach, hailed as a genius, had little to no success where he's at? Did his replacement at NDSU suddenly get bitten by the genius bu, or did he have A LOT of material to work with when he inherited the job?

That is the most ludicrous and stupid argument in sports, but you aren't alone in making it repeatedly.

Have the coaches had anything to do with performance at Ohio State and Michigan? How about Alabama?

[ban basketball]

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Now your ignorance is really coming through....Ferentz is coaching for his job this year..he continously has been going for it on 4th downs....all my Hawkeye friends are calling him Ferentz 2.0.....you are struggling today ban

Iowa are doing worse this year than in the past few seasons? Really?

[ban basketball]

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Ban, I don't usually find as much to nitpick about your posts, but this is an exception. Are you telling me that Dan Gable had nothing to do with the execution on the mat of Iowa wrestlers during the 80s and 90s?

Yes. Gable didn't wrestle the matches. He brought recruits in and trained in the best way possible, but if a wrestler lost, Gable didn't wrestle the matches. Plus, there wasn't as much parity in those days as today. Everyone who was anyone wanted to wrestle at Iowa.

Any coincidence that Zalesky coached the number of national championships that he did immediately after Gable left? No, he already had the goods in place.

[ban basketball]

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Ferentz stopped going to the same conservative offense with a QB that couldn't (or wasn't allowed to) throw downfield, and went with a dynamic playmaker this year. Night and day difference. Leave it to Ban to grab a perfect example of how a change in coaching philosophy proves results to argue that coaches aren't as important as players.

Baloney. So, what happens when they start losing a bunch of games, which they will? Coaching genius suddenly left him?

[95UNIGRAD]

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FWIW

Left side is Rudock last season and right side is CJB this year...not a ton of difference (re: almost none)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRJ5uqJU8AErj5F.jpg

Okay. that link makes it really small. I'll link to the tweet on it. I don't follow the account, but it popped up through a retweet on my timeline last night and seems timely on this topic

https://twitter.com/hawkeyegamefilm/...18739439874048

It's not the overall stats that I was pointing to as much as CJB's ability to pull out a big play when needed (they really had about ZERO of that last year) in comparison to last year. The huge runs vs. ISU come to mind immediately.

[ban basketball]

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Ban - you stated "what if other teams have finally caught up to us?"
That is a piss poor excuse to accept mediocrity. If a coach lets other teams "catch" them they should be shown the door. Teams don't stall, and words of Farley, "you are either getting better or worse, never staying the same."

Then you don't know much about sports. Teams always close the gap.

[Panther'73]

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I also thought that the new offensive coaches were supposed to be the big panacea? After two losses, apparently not, eh?

Not when MF steps in and negates anything new...the offense looks quite similar to last year w/out the huddle...nothing quick about it. When females can predict the plays from the stands so can the opposing teams...