Dunne Time?

[ubuntuCAT]

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An FCS team exists to make the playoffs, win playoff games, and win the NC. That's the progression to shoot for. Notice I didn't say anything about winning a one off game against a school some hate for whatever reason. Also, there's no guarantee Iowa will be highly ranked, high profile, etc., 2 years from now. They're not Alabama or Ohio St., and don't have the access to talent to field top 15 or better teams every year.

The nice thing about fandom is you can root for whatever you want. There are a few Bears fans in Chicago who are vocal about not caring if the Bears go 2-16, as long as those 2 are against the Packers. They sound like goofs when calling talk shows, but what's important to them is their choice.

You can say that all you want but for example had UNI beat Iowa in 2009 it would have done far more for the UNI program than even winning a national title that year would have done. No guarantee Iowa will be ranked in 2018 but certainly possible.

oh and in 2009 it would have put us in the playoffs.

[UNIdad]

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Exactly. The hate for Hallgren stems from the two blocked kicks. Ignored is the fact that he made more field goals and extra points than any kicker in UNI history. Was he the best we ever had? No, I would place that with Brian "Foot" Mitchell and there is a long list of great kickers to choose from. The fact Hallgren had so many attempts says more about the offense not putting the ball in the end zone than anything.

I love guys who really know history. This is long before my time as a Panther fan, so I need to be taught the great aspects of our history. Do you have a top 5 or top 10?

[MnPantherFan]

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If they were all part of the same recruiting class (or two, using redshirts), I don't think the NCAA would have any issue with it.

If you think Johnson would have had a huge rushing year behind six freshman or redshirt freshmen then go right ahead. On the other hand, we are talking about David Johnson so you could very well be correct.

[ubuntuCAT]

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Exactly. The hate for Hallgren stems from the two blocked kicks. Ignored is the fact that he made more field goals and extra points than any kicker in UNI history. Was he the best we ever had? No, I would place that with Brian "Foot" Mitchell and there is a long list of great kickers to choose from. The fact Hallgren had so many attempts says more about the offense not putting the ball in the end zone than anything.

I'm not saying Halgren was a bad kicker but having the record for most points as a kicker can be awfully deceiving. How many kickers do we have that start 4 years? That's a pile of xtra points.

2 missed field goals Richmond. The Iowa mess.

[95UNIGRAD]

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If I could pick only one in 2018 it would be to beat Iowa over winning national title.

I don't think the exposure we'd get in title game would even touch what it would be beating Iowa. Plus it's the last shot at Iowa.

I'd rather have a title, BUT how sweet would that be to beat them the last time we ever play them? That almost sways my thinking.

[panther-state]

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Might have missed something, but 09 would not have been beating Iowa on our "last shot". We played them in 2013 (at least I think that's the year; all I know is it was more recent than just 2009).

[SteinPizza]

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You can say that all you want but for example had UNI beat Iowa in 2009 it would have done far more for the UNI program than even winning a national title that year would have done. No guarantee Iowa will be ranked in 2018 but certainly possible.

oh and in 2009 it would have put us in the playoffs.

Beating Iowa would've been a positive talking point, sure. It would've had local impact, absolutely. But, local impact doesn't mean much, and doesn't last long. Winning a NC is far more important. Most college football fans are aware Iowa is decent, but that's about it. It really only has relevance inside the borders here.

[Born-a-Panther]

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I would love to beat Iowa.

I want that national championship more. 31 years of waiting to hang that banner, and I've promised my eight year old it will happen for him to witness it. I believe it... even if we have to wait another 31 years.

[Trapped in California]

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Beating Iowa would've been a positive talking point, sure. It would've had local impact, absolutely. But, local impact doesn't mean much, and doesn't last long. Winning a NC is far more important. Most college football fans are aware Iowa is decent, but that's about it. It really only has relevance inside the borders here.

A win could have had recruiting impact at the margins. And maybe have expedited the Big 10 move away from FCS. Maybe it would have saved Iowa another $50M on new Kirk.

[95UNIGRAD]

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An FCS team exists to make the playoffs, win playoff games, and win the NC. That's the progression to shoot for. Notice I didn't say anything about winning a one off game against a school some hate for whatever reason. Also, there's no guarantee Iowa will be highly ranked, high profile, etc., 2 years from now. They're not Alabama or Ohio St., and don't have the access to talent to field top 15 or better teams every year.

The nice thing about fandom is you can root for whatever you want. There are a few Bears fans in Chicago who are vocal about not caring if the Bears go 2-16, as long as those 2 are against the Packers. They sound like goofs when calling talk shows, but what's important to them is their choice.

I don't think the Bears are playing 18 games anytime soon.

[ubuntuCAT]

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Beating Iowa would've been a positive talking point, sure. It would've had local impact, absolutely. But, local impact doesn't mean much, and doesn't last long. Winning a NC is far more important. Most college football fans are aware Iowa is decent, but that's about it. It really only has relevance inside the borders here.

UNI home games would have been sell outs had we won.

Did Appy State get more recognition for beating Michigan or winning national title?

No I'm not saying Iowa is Michigan.

[TravelingPanther]

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I don't know which I would rather have, but more people would remember we beat Iowa. I still get people from other states who don't follow FCS who remember we had 2 FG chances to beat Iowa and know nothing else about UNI football.

[FOTY]

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Might have missed something, but 09 would not have been beating Iowa on our "last shot". We played them in 2013 (at least I think that's the year; all I know is it was more recent than just 2009).

They are referring to the future game of 2018... our last shot at the Hawks.

The conversation has gone back and forth.

[run&blade]

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National title would be way better IMO.

[TravelingPanther]

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National title would be way better IMO.

Maybe after 27 years I'm just used to no title.