Dunne Time?

[06panther10]

So you don't think the talent level on offense now is behind where it was in 07?

On the O Line? Absolutely. Those lines we had from 06-09 were some of the best in the history of FCS football IMO.

However, the overall talent level of our team and our offense the last 5-6 years has been exceptional.

[achrist70]

Re: Dunne Time?

No offense to Corey Lewis, but 4 years of David Johnson behind that 07 offensive line, and Austin Howard at TE we may of had a 10,000 yard rusher.

[claw]

That line is all that matters. Rennie and Bailey behind those lines dwarf Graces stats. Kollmorgen stays healthy and probably hold every passing record in the conferences history.

[panther1]

Re: Dunne Time?

That line is all that matters. Rennie and Bailey behind those lines dwarf Graces stats. Kollmorgen stays healthy and probably hold every passing record in the conferences history.

You think Rennie was a better passer than Grace?!? No. Not. Even. Close. Rennie was more fun to watch and a better teammate, but you can put him behind the Dallas Cowboys line and he still couldn't hit the broadside of the barn.

[MnPantherFan]

Re: Dunne Time?

No offense to Corey Lewis, but 4 years of David Johnson behind that 07 offensive line, and Austin Howard at TE we may of had a 10,000 yard rusher.

The NCAA would not look kindly on using the same five guys and TE for four years.

Bailey will be fine. UNI will squeeze into the play-offs and have a bitterly disappointing early round loss. Farley finds a way to use all six time-outs in the first half.

[claw]

You think Rennie was a better passer than Grace?!? No. Not. Even. Close. Rennie was more fun to watch and a better teammate, but you can put him behind the Dallas Cowboys line and he still couldn't hit the broadside of the barn.

He completed 59% of his passes. Grace was 61%

[panther1]

Re: Dunne Time?

He completed 59% of his passes. Grace was 61%

Not really looking for an argument, but Grace threw down field and Rennie did not. Their senior seasons, Grace threw for nearly 60 ypg more than Rennie with only one additional completion on average per outing.

I just hope Farley can adapt next season and let Dunne throw the ball around. It will help a lot if the offensive line gets better.

[Trapped in California]

I just hope Farley can adapt next season and let Salmon retire. It will help a lot if the offensive line gets better.

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[claw]

Re: Dunne Time?

Not really looking for an argument, but Grace threw down field and Rennie did not. Their senior seasons, Grace threw for nearly 60 ypg more than Rennie with only one additional completion on average per outing.

I just hope Farley can adapt next season and let Dunne throw the ball around. It will help a lot if the offensive line gets better.

Grace was also the driving force behind a 7-4 team missing the playoffs his senior year.

His stats that year are GREATLY influenced by one game - a first year trasnitioning South Dakota. That game he threw 4 touchdowns and had 445 yards. Outside of that one game Grace averaged 183 yards per game, down over 20 yards) and had just 16 touchdowns. Outside of that game Grace actually had acompletion % within a half percent of Rennie.

Biggest game of the season, a win and in situation, at Illinois State to close the season we went 5-12 with 2 picks before getting hurt.

Sure, Rennie didn't have a game like that but outside of, what was clearly an aberration game, Rennie went nearly stat for state with Grace as a senior. over 1,800 yards, 14 TD, 4 INT (half of what Grace threw). Oh, he also added about 80 yards of offense per game on the ground.

You might not be looking for an argument, but saying "Grace was vastly suprior" when the stats truly don't bear that out you'll end up in one.

Oh, Rennie also had 2 conference title rings to Grace's one - and didn't drop a wide open pass that would have been an easy touchdown in a semi-final 6 point loss.

[06panther10]

And if Pat Grace had a reliable kicker, he would have been remembered as maybe the greatest QB in UNI history as he might have had both a national title and a victory over Iowa.

[unipanther2154]

Re: Dunne Time?

And if Pat Grace had a reliable kicker, he would have been remembered as maybe the greatest QB in UNI history as he might have had both a national title and a victory over Iowa.

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Couldn't be more true. Jonny and victor also kinda played a role in us not winning that title.

[SteinPizza]

Re: Dunne Time?

On the O Line? Absolutely. Those lines we had from 06-09 were some of the best in the history of FCS football IMO.

However, the overall talent level of our team and our offense the last 5-6 years has been exceptional.

I'd disagree. With Johnson being an exception, the overall level of skill player is lower. Also, you can't separate the O Line from the other groups. A good O Line makes the other groups. Not the other way around.

[06panther10]

Terrell Sinkfield, Bret Lemaster, Kevin Vereen, Daurice Fountain and Chad Owens all would have been the best WR on almost any Eric Sanders era team. His best receiver was a 5'8 Johnny Gray.

Outside of the O-line, the talent level at UNI has never been higher than it has these last half decade or so.

[arealcat]

Re: Dunne Time?

Terrell Sinkfield, Bret Lemaster, Kevin Vereen, Daurice Fountain and Chad Owens all would have been the best WR on almost any Eric Sanders era team. His best receiver was a 5'8 Johnny Gray.

Outside of the O-line, the talent level at UNI has never been higher than it has these last half decade or so.

That's probably one of the most false statements I've seen on here. And that's saying something.

[06panther10]

That's probably one of the most false statements I've seen on here. And that's saying something.

Feel free to detail the amazing WRs that Sanders had to throw to.