Future Schedules

[UNIdad]

There would be a lot less complaining if we would actually go out and win some of these tough non conference games we insist on scheduling.

Absorbing L's to Montana, SUU, EWU, Iowa, ISU, etc and starting the season 1-4 or 2-5 is very demoralizing. Especially when we are more than capable of scheduling a Drake level school, getting the extra home game, and giving ourselves a chance to get thru a brutal conference schedule.

True, but winning against in-state rivals is oh-so-satisfying. Cheering hard for UNI to do so this year.

[sevelev711]

That literally didn’t happen. AAMoF I did the exact opposite

I was more referring to BC talking about how we're now apparently content with being NDSU's ***** because we have a softer schedule than we've had..

[BCPanther]

I was more referring to BC talking about how we're now apparently content with being NDSU's ***** because we have a softer schedule than we've had..

Not what I was complaining about at all. I was *****ing about the fact we seem to feel this need to play home and homes instead of buying games. NDSU is playing minium 6 home games every year and have 7 home games on the books in upcoming years. Load up on bad teams and play at home before it gets cold.

There is just no way that it is more cost effectiveto be chartering big ass jets to tiny rural places in western states, putting 80-100 people in a hotel and feeding a small army for two days than it is to pay a Pioneer or NEC team a guarantee to come play here. There's just no way.

[UNIdad]

Not what I was complaining about at all. I was *****ing about the fact we seem to feel this need to play home and homes instead of buying games. NDSU is playing minium 6 home games every year and have 7 home games on the books in upcoming years. Load up on bad teams and play at home before it gets cold.

There is just no way that it is more cost effectiveto be chartering big ass jets to tiny rural places in western states, putting 80-100 people in a hotel and feeding a small army for two days than it is to pay a Pioneer or NEC team a guarantee to come play here. There's just no way.

While I like the big in-state games, I agree that we should load up the home games early in the season so that we can have a better chance to start conference play with a winning record for a change.

[clenz]

Not what I was complaining about at all. I was *****ing about the fact we seem to feel this need to play home and homes instead of buying games. NDSU is playing minium 6 home games every year and have 7 home games on the books in upcoming years. Load up on bad teams and play at home before it gets cold.

There is just no way that it is more cost effectiveto be chartering big ass jets to tiny rural places in western states, putting 80-100 people in a hotel and feeding a small army for two days than it is to pay a Pioneer or NEC team a guarantee to come play here. There's just no way.

This here. Cost to charter a jet - actually 2 for trips but I’ll talk in terms of one - especially those equipped to handle a football travel party will run a few thousand an hour of flight time plus all other fees. That’s if the air port in Pocatello can handle that size plane (no idea of it can, and we don’t have to bus in from hours away). Honestly for just travel we are looking is at least 20k plus for just to get there and back. Hotel rooms, food, everything else and a trip to Pocatello is going to be anything except cheap.

Meanwhile a home game would be another game of tickets being sold at $20. Charge more for season tickets. Concessions. Parking. Programs.

I am quite skeptical about the cost effectiveness of going to Pocatello vs Valpo, Butler, Drake, Duquesne, etc...

[vbfan19]

I have zero problem with playing an FBS game each season, especially when it is against Iowa or Iowa State. The losses don't really hurt, and if they're able to pull off a win, it gives quite a boost in numerous ways.

[northwest iowa panther]

Not what I was complaining about at all. I was *****ing about the fact we seem to feel this need to play home and homes instead of buying games. NDSU is playing minium 6 home games every year and have 7 home games on the books in upcoming years. Load up on bad teams and play at home before it gets cold.

There is just no way that it is more cost effectiveto be chartering big ass jets to tiny rural places in western states, putting 80-100 people in a hotel and feeding a small army for two days than it is to pay a Pioneer or NEC team a guarantee to come play here. There's just no way.

NDSU has 7 home games on the books in upcoming years? Based on their athletic website (http://gobison.com/schedule.aspx?sch...&path=football)
they have 7 home for 2018. I believe that I saw this is only the 2nd or 3rd time this has happened that they have 7 home games. Next year they have 6 scheduled for home and one in Target Field vs Butler. So again you can say technically they have 7 home games for next year. As of now, their future schedules show only Drake as a home game in 2020 and no other future schedules from the AD show any home nonconference games. Maybe I'm looking at the wrong site but this appears to b e the athletic department's website like our UNI Panther site. Maybe you are thinking because of their playoff games they'll have 7 home games.

[BCPanther]

NDSU has 7 home games on the books in upcoming years? Based on their athletic website (http://gobison.com/schedule.aspx?sch...&path=football)
they have 7 home for 2018. I believe that I saw this is only the 2nd or 3rd time this has happened that they have 7 home games. Next year they have 6 scheduled for home and one in Target Field vs Butler. So again you can say technically they have 7 home games for next year. As of now, their future schedules show only Drake as a home game in 2020 and no other future schedules from the AD show any home nonconference games. Maybe I'm looking at the wrong site but this appears to b e the athletic department's website like our UNI Panther site. Maybe you are thinking because of their playoff games they'll have 7 home games.

So what exactly did I say that was incorrect? You tell me I'm wrong and then site two examples of them having 7 home games in the next two years (the Target Field game DEFINITELY counts) and then go to incomplete schedules and playoffs. I'm confused. Help me out here...

[Blue42]

Not what I was complaining about at all. I was *****ing about the fact we seem to feel this need to play home and homes instead of buying games. NDSU is playing minium 6 home games every year and have 7 home games on the books in upcoming years. Load up on bad teams and play at home before it gets cold.

There is just no way that it is more cost effectiveto be chartering big ass jets to tiny rural places in western states, putting 80-100 people in a hotel and feeding a small army for two days than it is to pay a Pioneer or NEC team a guarantee to come play here. There's just no way.

I guess the question is...would Pioneer or NEC teams be willing to come into the Dome to play us...and what would it cost?

Who knows what NDSU is paying a team like Drake to come in?

[clenz]

I guess the question is...would Pioneer or NEC teams be willing to come into the Dome to play us...and what would it cost?

Who knows what NDSU is paying a team like Drake to come in?

The price to bring a in-state or bus trip PFL team will be tiny compared to the cost of flying a travel party of 80, plus equipment and luggage halfway across the country and then paying for 80 hotel rooms for 2 nights and getting 6 team meals catered.

What NDSU pays is irrelevant outside of the off chance we are bidding for the same exact date. Payday games don’t work like “well this team paid this so we need that”. Not how it works.

[Blue42]

The price to bring a in-state or bus trip PFL team will be tiny compared to the cost of flying a travel party of 80, plus equipment and luggage halfway across the country and then paying for 80 hotel rooms for 2 nights and getting 6 team meals catered.

What NDSU pays is irrelevant outside of the off chance we are bidding for the same exact date. Payday games don’t work like “well this team paid this so we need that”. Not how it works.

Uh....well the teams do need to agree to the deal. And if they don't want to take a 40 point beat down they might ask for more $.

Unless you know what a team like Drake has asked for to play in the Dome, you guys are talking out of your arse.

Do u guys really think we just don't want to play more home games?

[clenz]

Uh....well the teams do need to agree to the deal. And if they don't want to take a 40 point beat down they might ask for more $.

Unless you know what a team like Drake has asked for to play in the Dome, you guys are talking out of your arse.

Do u guys really think we just don't want to play more home games?

I do know what NDSU, SDSU, USD and Montana pay for games down to pennies and travel reimbursements...because sources....trust me when I say they aren’t driving prices up.

Whats a 40 point beat down in Cedar Falls compared to Normal or Brookings or Missoula or Fargo?

If it cost what you, and others, are assuming to bring this teams in I can promise you there would be no way USD, UND, SDSU ISUr it even SIU (who had 45m cut from their university just like 2 years ago) would be able to be playing 6 home games like they do.

[Blue42]

I do know what NDSU, SDSU, USD and Montana pay for games down to pennies and travel reimbursements...because sources....trust me when I say they aren’t driving prices up.

Whats a 40 point beat down in Cedar Falls compared to Normal or Brookings or Missoula or Fargo?

If it cost what you, and others, are assuming to bring this teams in I can promise you there would be no way USD, UND, SDSU ISUr it even SIU (who had 45m cut from their university just like 2 years ago) would be able to be playing 6 home games like they do.

We'll i didn't see any numbers quoted so I guess we'll have to take your word for it.

So...is your theory that we're intentionally not playing a 6th home game? That for some reason we'd rather go to Pocatello than play at home?

I'm not connecting your dots here?

[clenz]

We'll i didn't see any numbers quoted so I guess we'll have to take your word for it.

So...is your theory that we're intentionally not playing a 6th home game? That for some reason we'd rather go to Pocatello than play at home?

I'm not connecting your dots here?

I don’t know a reason other than knocking two seasons of games out at once.

But let’s math here as I look deeper at numbers. A large cabin flights chartered averages 7800 per hour and almost every company requires at least 10 hours paid - used or not. ALso have to pay for the fuel. Looking at 80k just to get to Idaho. Multiple charter buses at 150-200 and hour plus day rents fees for 2 or 3 days plus gratuity and there is another 5k pretty easy if not more. Let’s call it 60 hotel rooms for the traveling party and pretend we get some kind of discount and it’s 100 per room per night plus renting areas for team and position meetings. Bam another 12-15k gone. Now we have to feed 53 football players enough to fuel them for a game and replenish them after a game. Let’s say $10 a person per meal (super cheap guess) for say 6 total meals. Looking at another 5k+. Honestly a trip to Idaho could easily run 120k+.

Its why UND is leaving then Big Sky. Travel costs literally crippled their budget to the point they cut like 5 sports including women’s hockey - the second biggest program at UND behind only men’s hockey.

Put that 120 towards a buy game and it won’t take all that much more to get there. Oh and then you can start recouping that with ticket sales. Let’s say we sell 10,000 paid tickets at an average price of 15 a head. There is 150k. Let’s say we bring another 5k in on parking fees. Concessions. Sponsorships for another game.

Let’s pretned a game cost 200k - which you can easily get based on information i have gotten. Let’s pretend we break even. Guess what? Breaking even is better than spending 120k to go to Pencileraser, Idaho. We have the ability to lose 120k on a home game and still come out a head of flying a tram to Idaho or Washington or California or Utah or Louisiana for a road game.

[northwest iowa panther]

I'm not sure I'm understanding the paranoia of playing 5 compared to 6 compared to 7 home games. This year we have 5 home dates plus a game at Iowa. We play 6 in state games. Next year we play 7 games in state followed by 7 again the following year. The fan base that truly cares, season ticket holders, PSC members, Rally in the Valley participants that raised near $200,000 in one evening, will make the trips to Ames and Iowa City to tail gate, soak in the atmosphere and appreciate the fact that the Athletic Department will take home $400,000 to $500,000 from each of those games. And who knows if we play well at I.C. and Ames we may even win.