Playoffs

[clenz]

There is is a history here of his awful posting that goes back way before you were around.

To the point he actually changed names to try to hide the history.

[Logicfan]

If UNI was still in the Gateway Conference they would have finished the season 10-2 and gotten a seed.

[Cat80]

Again, why have rankings then and why have conference standings? That’s the crux of the matter. You are just throwing that out and making those things less than one hth matchup and then getting into other areas that make zero sense as they are one sided. The same can be thrown at sdsu. Don’t get beaten by lowly conference foes. Two of them. We didn’t. See what i did there?

Yes. And the core point remains. UNI did not control its own destiny. To an extent SDSU did. A win over Weber or SDSU would have done it for UNI.

[clenz]

Yes. And the core point remains. UNI did not control its own destiny. To an extent SDSU did. A win over Weber or SDSU would have done it for UNI.

They controlled their own destiny and lost to ****ing 4 win South Dakota.

[UNIAlum95]

Again, why have rankings then and why have conference standings? That’s the crux of the matter. You are just throwing that out and making those things less than one hth matchup and then getting into other areas that make zero sense as they are one sided. The same can be thrown at sdsu. Don’t get beaten by lowly conference foes. Two of them. We didn’t. See what i did there?

I get being upset but the fact is that we are 8-4 and that makes it a crap shoot on seeding. If you leave it up to the committee you are going to have things like this happen. Someone else already said if we were SDSU and UNI got the seed, we'd be whining about that. It is what it is. Win any of those 4 and we are likely a top 4 seeded team. In the end it came down to a crappy performance at SDSU and the fact that we were playing freshman to patch up our lineup wasn't even considered.

Clearly in the eyes of the committee, there is no benefit to playing a difficult non-conference schedule. Collect your one paycheck game and schedule Drake, Butler, etc... If it counts as a win toward playoffs, go as low as you can. Hell we should be paying Drake to play in Des Moines every other year. It's an outreach opportunity for our DM alums. But until that happens this is our result. Anyone surprised hasn't been watching.

[UNIdad]

https://www.anygivensaturday.com/sho...the-SRS-Basics

I got a headache just looking at those rules. Anybody gone through the playoff selection to see if they actually followed their own rules?

[ronfitch]

I get being upset but the fact is that we are 8-4 and that makes it a crap shoot on seeding. If you leave it up to the committee you are going to have things like this happen. Someone else already said if we were SDSU and UNI got the seed, we'd be whining about that. It is what it is. Win any of those 4 and we are likely a top 4 seeded team. In the end it came down to a crappy performance at SDSU and the fact that we were playing freshman to patch up our lineup wasn't even considered.

Clearly in the eyes of the committee, there is no benefit to playing a difficult non-conference schedule. Collect your one paycheck game and schedule Drake, Butler, etc... If it counts as a win toward playoffs, go as low as you can. Hell we should be paying Drake to play in Des Moines every other year. It's an outreach opportunity for our DM alums. But until that happens this is our result. Anyone surprised hasn't been watching.

Yup. With the MVFC being as strong as it is year-in and year-out and understanding that Ws rank very high in the minds of the committee and that an L is an L, regardless of who (there is no "quality" L, just an L) in the minds of the committee, the non-conference schedule hurt UNI in getting what the committee wants.

[clenz]

I got a headache just looking at those rules. Anybody gone through the playoff selection to see if they actually followed their own rules?

Well...here's a fun one

The committe states they use the Coaches poll and SRS to determine the field and seeds. SRS came out at 4pm yesterday and the coaches poll just came out this am

UNI doesn't get a top 8 seed but were
6th in the coaches poll
6th in the STATS poll
6th in the AGS poll
8th in the SRS

SDSU was
12th in the coaches poll
10th in the STATS poll
9th in the AGS poll
7th in the SRS

and got a seed

[SoccerDobber]

Well...here's a fun one

The committe states they use the Coaches poll and SRS to determine the field and seeds. SRS came out at 4pm yesterday and the coaches poll just came out this am

UNI doesn't get a top 8 seed but were
6th in the coaches poll
6th in the STATS poll
6th in the AGS poll
8th in the SRS

SDSU was
12th in the coaches poll
10th in the STATS poll
9th in the AGS poll
7th in the SRS

and got a seed

They just make up rules as they go. They can't even tell you why they do what they do.

[95UNIGRAD]

Guarantee you they looked at our identical records (8-4 each), and said "what happened when they played each other" without any regard to the rest of the schedule. Yet another argument for loading up on patsies through September, rather than playing Iowa/Iowa State and Top 10 NonCon schools.

[achrist70]

I really don't understand why we can't load up on teams from the MEAC, SWAC, Patriot, NEC, or Big South for our non conference schedule. I understand we have to play a FBS school for the payday.

[clenz]

I really don't understand why we can't load up on teams from the MEAC, SWAC, Patriot, NEC, or Big South for our non conference schedule. I understand we have to play a FBS school for the payday.

We had a massive discussion on this a year ago when the Idaho State H/H was announced.

A few of us were told by others on here that it is FAR FAR FAR more cost effective and healthier for the program to fly to BFE, Idaho for a H/H rather than have a buy game home game.

For some reason only UNI is only able to ever schedule H/Hs...and do so against other top programs. It's apparently so much cheaper to fly the entire program to Idaho for 3 days than bring in home games.


Interesting that Nelly asked Farley yesterday about that very thing. Farley is usually pretty careful with answers, but that topic got him to actually stop his answer, reconsider what he was about to say, and give a very different answer than you'd hear from him on any other question. You can tell he's pretty pissed about our scheduling

[sevelev711]

Interesting that Nelly asked Farley yesterday about that very thing. Farley is usually pretty careful with answers, but that topic got him to actually stop his answer, reconsider what he was about to say, and give a very different answer than you'd hear from him on any other question. You can tell he's pretty pissed about our scheduling

You'd figure he'd have some impact on that, though, no? Surely he has enough pull to ask the AD for easier games. And this isn't me being sarcastic, but seriously, you'd think if the HC asked, the AD would try to abide.

[Mudrafan]

Yes. And the core point remains. UNI did not control its own destiny. To an extent SDSU did. A win over Weber or SDSU would have done it for UNI.

And sdsu lost three conference games so they didn’t either so that core point also remains as does the fact they weren’t ranked as high and finished lower in conference. So by simply looking hth you are throwing everything else out so why play the rest of the season?

[Mudrafan]

Guarantee you they looked at our identical records (8-4 each), and said "what happened when they played each other" without any regard to the rest of the schedule. Yet another argument for loading up on patsies through September, rather than playing Iowa/Iowa State and Top 10 NonCon schools.

You aren’t getting the whole “budget thing”