Playoffs

[Mudrafan]

I get being upset but the fact is that we are 8-4 and that makes it a crap shoot on seeding. If you leave it up to the committee you are going to have things like this happen. Someone else already said if we were SDSU and UNI got the seed, we'd be whining about that. It is what it is. Win any of those 4 and we are likely a top 4 seeded team. In the end it came down to a crappy performance at SDSU and the fact that we were playing freshman to patch up our lineup wasn't even considered.

Clearly in the eyes of the committee, there is no benefit to playing a difficult non-conference schedule. Collect your one paycheck game and schedule Drake, Butler, etc... If it counts as a win toward playoffs, go as low as you can. Hell we should be paying Drake to play in Des Moines every other year. It's an outreach opportunity for our DM alums. But until that happens this is our result. Anyone surprised hasn't been watching.

I’m not the least bit surprised and clearly expected it as we get screwed annually. But being surprised and being pissed are two entirely separate issues. And stop with the taking care of business bs. Sdsu didn’t take care of business. They lost three in conference including two against lesser teams and were still rewarded. And to say I’d be pissed if roles were reversed. No. I certainly wouldn’t. I would expect the team that won more conference games and was ranked higher to get seeded higher

[clenz]

You'd figure he'd have some impact on that, though, no? Surely he has enough pull to ask the AD for easier games. And this isn't me being sarcastic, but seriously, you'd think if the HC asked, the AD would try to abide.

He wouldn't directly comment on it, but he did say there were absolutely conversations that need to happen behind closed doors.

I have many...many...questions about Harris as AD and his ability to schedule is one of them.

Let's just say I have "sources" and I can tell you Farley has been pretty GD unhappy with scheduling going back to about 2014 and has voiced such things but we had an AD in Dannen that didn't give a damn about anything other than showing how big of a member he had and what kind of deals he could swing (EWU/Montana/Cal Poly)

The schedule absolutely screwed UNI this year, what UNI could control AND what wasn't. Road games at NDSU, SDSU and ISUR in the same year? Just stupid.

I've complained about this to my SDSU buddy for years. They schedule correctly. Look at our resume compared to theirs

Both had a top 25 FBS loss cancel that out
Both beat SUU at home throw that out

It comes down to
Idaho State/Drake - style points on Drake much easier than style points on ISUo...though we should have done better (but injuries played part of that)

AND

at Weber State/v Long Island

Long Island is actually D1 this year.

They merged two schools to make one, and since one of them was already D1 they got to make their football program D1 and by-pass the move up steps that schools like UNA are going through.

I mean...sure they went 0-10 in the NEC and got averaged 9 points per game on the season...but they are D1


Got absolutely bent over because we played Weber State and not Long freaking Island.

[clenz]

You aren’t getting the whole “budget thing”

I, and others, have shown math on the cost to fly a team to Idaho for 3 days. You can buy a game for it....and have a game to sell tickets too, and parking and concessions.

And a healthier team...

It's worth it if you actually want to have a high end program.

Indiana State had 7 home games this year
Western Illinois is the economy holding it's breath for half a second too long from closing....they had 7 home games in an 11 game season just a year or two ago.

UNI is literally the only MVFC program not buying games.

[SoccerDobber]

I’m not the least bit surprised and clearly expected it as we get screwed annually. But being surprised and being pissed are two entirely separate issues. And stop with the taking care of business bs. Sdsu didn’t take care of business. They lost three in conference including two against lesser teams and were still rewarded. And to say I’d be pissed if roles were reversed. No. I certainly wouldn’t. I would expect the team that won more conference games and was ranked higher to get seeded higher

I agree wholeheartedly. Anyone says that if the roles were reversed they'd be pissed is lying to themself or just flat out wrong. If my team got 4th in conference and backed into the playoffs going 2-3 in the last 5, I wouldn't expect/feel entitled to anything. It's a full season not 1 game of head to head. It wasn't for AQ tie breaker.

[clenz]

Hey...since it's about H2H Illinois State should have gotten the seed.
They beat South Dakota State...in Brookings

and because of that they win the tie break with them

Congrats on the 7 seed Illinois State

[SoccerDobber]

I, and others, have shown math on the cost to fly a team to Idaho for 3 days. You can buy a game for it....and have a game to sell tickets too, and parking and concessions.

And a healthier team...

It's worth it if you actually want to have a high end program.

Indiana State had 7 home games this year
Western Illinois is the economy holding it's breath for half a second too long from closing....they had 7 home games in an 11 game season just a year or two ago.

UNI is literally the only MVFC program not buying games.

Playing Iowa and Wisconsin in the same season was really fun too. We should do that more often to help with our budget problem. *Sarcasm*

[achrist70]

In all honesty we should play an FBS team every year, try to play Drake every year, rotate home and away is fine with me, and then always have a buy game.

[Blue42]

In all honesty we should play an FBS team every year, try to play Drake every year, rotate home and away is fine with me, and then always have a buy game.

I just don't think Drake wants anything to do with playing us every year...or maybe ever.

Not good for the D+ brand to take a 30 point L to your in-state MVC rival.

I'm pretty sure we've asked.

I'd be totally fine with playing them H/H. I don't think they're taking the offer.

[clenz]

I just don't think Drake wants anything to do with playing us every year...or maybe ever.

Not good for the D+ brand to take a 30 point L to your in-state MVC rival.

I'm pretty sure we've asked.

I'd be totally fine with playing them H/H.

This is largely true. Drake is very reluctant to play UNI - especially in CF. They currently have a winning record against UNI and will do everything possible to protect that.

Play the game in Des Moines. Set up a "permanent" 2/1 in Des Monies for all most anyone cares. Get a bit allotment from Drake and sell them.

[vbfan19]

Indeed. I'm looking at UNI's 3 losses to FCS teams and the one that would have put us into a seed would have been a win at WSU. That was not a 'good loss.' 20-3 at the end of the first quarter and swimming upstream the remainder of the game is not a good loss. UNI gets screwed by the committee more often than not, I'm noting that an early season game can be just as important to a seed as a late season game. The key is UNI improving in important road games, not trusting the committee to not treat us poorly. Our 3 FCS road losses were all blowouts. Weber's one FCS road loss was a blowout at Montana; not a rare occurrence as all UNI fans know.

If any of the 4 losses would have been wins, UNI would be seeded. (heck, possibly even a top 4 seed). Not just the WSU loss.

[clenz]

If any of the 4 losses would have been wins, UNI would be seeded. (heck, possibly even a top 4 seed). Not just the WSU loss.

KSU had 10 wins. Should they be seeded? They just won their games

SDSU had 4 losses...

If my aunt had a....

[TravelingPanther]

I would be completely fine with playing Drake in Des Moines every year. I would be completely fine with home-and-homes against Butler, Valpo, or any other Midwest Pioneer league team.

Who cares about perception let's get the W's

[vbfan19]

To the point he actually changed names to try to hide the history.

you'd know about name changes, as you've had a few on here yourself.

[lakesbison]

UNI got HOSED! wow. SDSU has no business being seeded. they lost to dogpoop coyotes.
UNI lost to sdsu yea.. but they didnt lost to the coyotes!

plus sdsu will get maybe 3400 fans at their stadium in the snow and cold. UNI if seeded instead would get 10K +

oh well, win your bracket and meet NDSU in Frisco!

[Mudrafan]

Hey...since it's about H2H Illinois State should have gotten the seed.
They beat South Dakota State...in Brookings

and because of that they win the tie break with them

Congrats on the 7 seed Illinois State

I see what you did there