Next up: Iowa State

[ubuntuCAT]

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Mediacom, and I think ESPN Full Court

[96' Alum]

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96,

Way to avoid the question of how to explain 3 straight trips to the NCAA's (I'm sure it was just luck?)....

Anyway, I'm sure Mac has forgot more about Basketball then you or me will ever know, otherwise he would be the one sitting behind the keyboard critizing and not making 800+ g a year, actually Coaching it....

Jake and Mac are good friends and better Coaches (Jake is a better Coach then Bartender when he worked for me), so I will defend them against guys like you when I can....

Still do not know who I will root for, but you make it easier if ISU were to win to quote some of your bold ingorance, still hoping for a Great Game...

Well Daggs,

The three NCAA trips were pretty cool, but he also cashed in on that.

I know they are your boys, and that is great. So defend them. I was never against Jake, I knew that we were sorely lacking in guard play his first two years. It's no coincidence that when that was taken care of (KA getting healthy, and bringing in Johnny, and Ali) we went back to the NCAA.

I was amazed that he won 18 games with Jared Josten as his lead guard. No offense to JJ, but he was not a true point guard.

I just listen to people that I know who are part of the ISU community. If you think that there isn't a fairly sizeable group in that fan base that doubts his ability to win at that level, then we will just agree to disagree.

I was impressed after watching the Drake game, but then he reverted back to his old ways the minute Northwestern challenged them. He let the other team totally dictate the tempo of the game. You have better players, use them.

[BryceC]

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None of them, except for Gilstrap, really seem to handle contact well.

Dendy is probably our 2nd most physical post player after Gilstrap and he's been out since the first game. I'm guessing he'll likely be out for the UNI game as well.

[SteinPizza]

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Hey Daggs,

I have nothing against Mac, don't really care one way or the other. The funny thing is that in his fourth year, he still hasn't pulled an upset. However, he has lost several games to teams that he has more talent than....Why is that???

Iowa State has had a fair amount of success in the past 25 years. When he has been there as long as he has, and had to resort to recruiting a one year player (Gilstrap, who should be great if played the last SIX minutes of a close game), to try to have a winning season, and make the NCAA......That doesn't bode well.

A part of me want to throw the "dual fan" garbage back in everyone's face, but I'll pass.

What makes you think Iowa State has lost to several teams when they've had more talent? Northwestern was actually expecting a pretty good season, then lost 2 starters. While that might sound like I'm contradicting myself, they were expected to be decent regardless. I fail to see how Iowa State can be regarded as having more talent than many other teams. Brackins has gotten a lot of hype. But I didn't read a lot of speculation, other than in Iowa, about his NBA future. We'll see, I guess.

Also, like it or not, recruiting one year players happens in major college basketball. Did anyone think Derek Rose was going to stay more than one year at Memphis??? Gilstrap can't hold Derek Rose's jock strap, but you see my point. Isn't Tony Freeman a one year player at SIU?

[06panther10]

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96,

Way to avoid the question of how to explain 3 straight trips to the NCAA's (I'm sure it was just luck?)....

Anyway, I'm sure Mac has forgot more about Basketball then you or me will ever know, otherwise he would be the one sitting behind the keyboard critizing and not making 800+ g a year, actually Coaching it....

Jake and Mac are good friends and better Coaches (Jake is a better Coach then Bartender when he worked for me), so I will defend them against guys like you when I can....

Still do not know who I will root for, but you make it easier if ISU were to win to quote some of your bold ingorance, still hoping for a Great Game...

Yeah, we get it. You know them both personally, and will defend them to no end....

You do know that Iowa State is a rival, and Mac left us for them right? We love what he did here, but don't expect people to come on here and kiss up to him anymore.

[williebat]

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A part of me want to throw the "dual fan" garbage back in everyone's face, but I'll pass.

What makes you think Iowa State has lost to several teams when they've had more talent? Northwestern was actually expecting a pretty good season, then lost 2 starters. While that might sound like I'm contradicting myself, they were expected to be decent regardless. I fail to see how Iowa State can be regarded as having more talent than many other teams. Brackins has gotten a lot of hype. But I didn't read a lot of speculation, other than in Iowa, about his NBA future. We'll see, I guess.

Also, like it or not, recruiting one year players happens in major college basketball. Did anyone think Derek Rose was going to stay more than one year at Memphis??? Gilstrap can't hold Derek Rose's jock strap, but you see my point. Isn't Tony Freeman a one year player at SIU?

I would not mind if UNI got a one year type talent player!!! Just sayin!

Also Mac would be sitting pretty now if wesley jonhson had not left. Just the way the ole ball bounces.

I predict UNI by 5

go panthers.

[Coachdags]

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Yeah, we get it. You know them both personally, and will defend them to no end....

You do know that Iowa State is a rival, and Mac left us for them right? We love what he did here, but don't expect people to come on here and kiss up to him anymore.

Not expecting anyone to "Kiss Up", but some (not you) need to reconized where he put the program would be nice, instead of BASHING.....?

[Middy33]

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Hey Daggs,

Sometimes a person has to know their limitations. Did you watch the Northwestern game??? How many times does a team coached by Greg McDermott have to lose the same way before he makes a change???

I watched them play Drake last year, and they did the same thing, don't call a timeout when the other team takes all of the momentum from you. And what was that last play??? He took TWO timeouts to run that???

I have watched the last couple years, because I was hoping for his sake that he wins there. But as much as he overcoaches that team, he is scared to death to take a timeout when the other team has turned all the momentum.

I have nothing against Mac, don't really care one way or the other. The funny thing is that in his fourth year, he still hasn't pulled an upset. However, he has lost several games to teams that he has more talent than....Why is that???

Iowa State has had a fair amount of success in the past 25 years. When he has been there as long as he has, and had to resort to recruiting a one year player (Gilstrap, who should be great if played the last SIX minutes of a close game), to try to have a winning season, and make the NCAA......That doesn't bode well.

I read the contract he has there, and they can't afford to buy him out. That will be the death of that program, add the mess in Iowa City, and there is no reason that we can't step in as the best program in the state.

Anyway, Daggs, I am fairly certain that Mac needs this win more than Jake does.

If we lose, then a Big 12 team beat an MVC team. They are supposed to win. A win for us is a huge feather in our cap, and could be very important on Selection Sunday.

Mac loses to us again, and he will have an even more divided fanbase to deal with. Hilton used to be a great place to watch a game. I would hate to think of it as empty and lifeless as Carver.

I'm just curious with all the knowledge in coaching basketball, why aren't you Coaching there instead of Mac? Since your analysis of his coaching so spot on!

[jegbomb52]

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Not expecting anyone to "Kiss Up", but some (not you) need to reconized where he put the program would be nice, instead of BASHING.....?

Coach, I can easily recognize where he put this program. However, my loyalties, unlike yours, run with the University, and not with Coach Mac. Coach Mac lost my loyalty, fandom, and recognition when he went to ISU, he lost my respect about five minutes after he almost tripped down the stairs at Hilton for his "acceptence" presser when he all of that crap about how he was always a cyclone or some like that.

I do not wish him well, he turned his back on the university that I love, for whatever the reasons might have been, justified or no, he still did it. I hope I didn't turn this into a "bash" or "defend" coach Mac thread, I just felt like some people were getting poked because they weren't bowing at his feet.

[Coachdags]

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Jeg,

Greg is a UNI Panther and always will be, "One" week a year he does not root for UNI (that will be this Wednesday). You can believe that or not, but I know it to be true. His heart, support (financial giving and fan wise) will always be with the Purple.

That is all I have to say....

Let's Get this Thread back on Track.....Go Panthers ! Should be a Great Game!

[williebat]

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Not expecting anyone to "Kiss Up", but some (not you) need to reconized where he put the program would be nice, instead of BASHING.....?

I was a little upset when mac left for an in state rival. But I am over it. I think we are lucky to have jake and am behind him 100%. I am glad to hear and not surprised that Mac gives money to UNI. I am also glad that his son is playing here. I hope he is uber successful and keeps moving up the coaching ladder.

When the time comes will you and Mac do everything you can to get coach Jake to stay at UNI? When we reach the sweet sixteen one of these years ,and we will, someone else will come calling. So I hope Mac does everything he can to keep the coach at UNI! I am guessing he will!

Peace coach Mac and good luck

[JD720]

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When the time comes will you and Mac do everything you can to get coach Jake to stay at UNI? When we reach the sweet sixteen one of these years ,and we will, someone else will come calling. So I hope Mac does everything he can to keep the coach at UNI! I am guessing he will!

I'm guessing Mac's primary motivation in that scenario would be to give his friend good advice (as it should be). Unless Mac thinks his move to ISU was a big mistake (which I doubt he does), I can't see him telling Jake to stay at UNI if a bigger opportunity comes along.

[AmesPanther]

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Supposedly Dendy is out, Gilstrap and Brackins are sick.

[96' Alum]

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I'm just curious with all the knowledge in coaching basketball, why aren't you Coaching there instead of Mac? Since your analysis of his coaching so spot on!

Ahh another famous argument from people that can't point to any real evidence to make the point that Mac is going to win at Iowa State.....Don't worry, Daggs tried it also in this thread.

Stein, don't you have a Hawk board to post on??? The problem is not Iowa State, hell I hope that Mac keeps up this incredible job that he has been doing, it only helps us.

You know Middy, I appreciate that Mac helped you maximize your potential. That is great thing, and I can see why you would think so highly of him. Mac is pretty good at that part of the game, and I mean that.

The problem is that he is not in a conference that allows him to "coach players up."

[06panther10]

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Supposedly Dendy is out, Gilstrap and Brackins are sick.

eh, its all mind games from McDermott..