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    'The Heartland'

    I think I'm going to have to think about this one for a little bit.
    The Lord reigns, let the earth be glad; let the distant shores rejoice, clouds and thick darkness surround Him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne. Fire goes before Him, and consumes his foes on every side; His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles; the mountains melt like wax before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim His righteousness and all peoples will see His glory.

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    Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

    I'm listening...
    Illinois State Fan at a St. Louis White Castle 3:45AM Saturday March 6th:

    "White Castle?" "more like Black Castle..."

    You stay classy Redbirds.

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    • #3
      Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

      Even if a coference like that comes to shape, they are going to look at more than recent history when picking schools. There is no way UNI gets invited to that conference.

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        Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

        Originally posted by JD720 View Post
        Even if a coference like that comes to shape, they are going to look at more than recent history when picking schools. There is no way UNI gets invited to that conference.
        I'd have to agree. IMO the chances of a conference like that being created is pretty low and the chance of UNI being invited much lower.

        If the they wanted to make a "basketball first" conference I don't see the sense in eliminating schools that don't have football. From a money making standpoint I don't see how a league like that would take UNI over Wichita St or Creighton.

        Not sure I really understand the football aspect of this conference?
        "I think they're very good," Farley said of the preseason top 25 Hawkeyes. "But so are we."

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          Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

          Originally posted by ubuntuCAT View Post
          I'd have to agree. IMO the chances of a conference like that being created is pretty low and the chance of UNI being invited much lower.

          If the they wanted to make a "basketball first" conference I don't see the sense in eliminating schools that don't have football. From a money making standpoint I don't see how a league like that would take UNI over Wichita St or Creighton.

          Not sure I really understand the football aspect of this conference?
          You have a point with Creighton, not with WSU. Creighton has a great facility, a large home market and a big-enough fan base. They also have a sizable cache in the basketball world (though we have accomplished more at the national level than they have, to put the myth of the Creighton basketball monster into proper perspective). WSU has a smaller market, less history, a bigger fan base and building than us, but I think their exclusion says something more important. K-State and KU fans don't view WSU like WSU fans like to view themselves. They see, from a closer proximity, through the nonstop shocker BS.

          Honestly, if a Valley team were to be included in this hypothetical, UNI, Creighton and SIU are the only serious choices.

          That said, I don't see it. The football issue (at least with UNI) is prohibitive. The divisional alignment (upper and lower) he discuses with football is completely untenable. It would be a good basketball league, however.

          We are included because of our recent history and general program trajectory, not to mention we just clubbed his favorite team into an early off-season.

          I am increasingly convinced conference realignment will "touch" us, but not in the way most people might think. First, I don't believe yesterday's Pac-10 story, not for a second. What I do think might happen is a massive reorganization leaving the Big XII in history's dustbin, power leagues running FBS football (Big Ten, SEC, ACC, Pac-10) in such a way that the NCAA is forced to completely realign the FBS system, forcing the MAC/C-USA/SunBelt/WAC teams back to FCS where they are a better fit and rightfully belong. They get to participate in a playoff, the powers get to run their own universe.

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            Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

            Creighton is out, they will be in the new "Catholic Basketball League" with Notre Dame.

            Wichita State is out, no conference that has Kansas and K-State in it will allow Wichita to join. They have too much to lose. It would be SIU or UNI.

            Not gonna happen, just sayin.
            Illinois State Fan at a St. Louis White Castle 3:45AM Saturday March 6th:

            "White Castle?" "more like Black Castle..."

            You stay classy Redbirds.

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            • #7
              Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

              One important thing to keep in mind is that this whole scenario is a completely hypothetical/theoretical construct of one local/regional sportswriter. As opposed to something that is actually being considered by the schools in question.

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              • #8
                Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

                FWIW, Colorado's AD is now on record as saying that he has been led to believe that invitations from the Pac-10 for six Big XII schools (UT/TT/TAM/OU/OSU/UC) are coming.

                If your name happens to be Jamie Pollard and you happen to be employed by Iowa State University, your world just came crashing down around you.

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                • #9
                  Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

                  That's ridiculous.
                  UNI isn't exactly splitting atoms in terms of academics. -run&blade

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                  • #10
                    Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

                    I really can't see that happening, but if it does, they need to fire the bulldozers up in Story County and start building a mountain, because the MWC becomes the Cyclone's best option.
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                      Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

                      I think the Cyclones are very close to becoming a man without a country.

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                      • #12
                        Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

                        Don't worry, the Hilton MAACgic will come back...

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                        • #13
                          Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

                          This would be a conference that would have the expense of a major conference but not the revenue. Don't see how that would work.
                          GO PANTHERS!

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                            Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

                            Xavier doesn't have football either. He must've missed that.
                            Selling a lot of old UNI stuff here: http://www.panthernation.com/showthread.php?t=65762

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                              Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

                              The stuff coming out of the Big XII meetings is, in a word, startling.

                              ISU sent a letter out this afternoon that basically says they hope things are going to work out, but if it doesn't, they're in big trouble.

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