Who wants to play in Carver next week?

[hoopfan]

Re: Who wants to play in Carver next week?

Thats fair enough, I guess I did forget about babb's little pot smoking incident. I just don't like to see all transfers and juccos labeled as bad kids. A guy like will clyburn has been nothing but a first class citizen. Only reason why he went jucco was because he didn't get recruited out of high school and the only reason why he transfered was because his coach got canned at Utah.

You aren't going to win this argument with 9yr. No one ever does. The only way to win is to present unbiased facts, not opinions. 9yr. is the only person to present solid, unbiased facts on this board. The problem is that Iowa is so great, all the facts point to Iowa being the best team. It's unfortunate. Hopefully the other state schools can catch up.

I personally agree with you that ISU is going to be the better team next year. Not because I dislike Iowa, but because I feel like Hoiberg is going to get more out of his team. Not every coach can take transfers and make it work. Hoiberg can do this because he has the name and respect to do it. I'm sure everyone of these transfers wants to play professionally when they are done at ISU. Hoiberg has the credibility to tell these kids this is what you need to do to get to that level, and what he expects while they are in his program.

I would put the turnaround at ISU right up there with what Tom Crean has done at Indiana. ISU didn't have the sanctions that Indiana did, but ISU also doesn't have the history and name recognition that Indiana does. Kids will go to Indiana because it is Indiana. The transfers are bringing the program back and I expect Hoiberg will start bringing in a lot of real good players right out of high school.

[PantherHawk]

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SI's bubble watch pretty much sums it up perfectly regarding Iowa:

Iowa (21-12, 9-9; RPI: 77, SOS: 97)
The bottom line is Iowa didn’t schedule great in nonconference play and then whiffed on all six chances they had for a top-25 win. Seven of their 10 league wins, including the Big Ten tournament, were over Northwestern, Purdue, Nebraska and Penn State. The Hawkeyes may have made it with a win over Michigan State in the quarterfinals, but it looks like a tough case now. They would be the worst RPI ever included as an at-large.

GW: Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa State Illinois?
BL: At Virginia Tech, at Purdue?, at nebbie

The two games that are bolded are canceling each other out. Nebbie has been in the top 100 at times, but they dropped out yesterday. Illinois is rated way TOO high as well as minny.

There is not one single Iowa fan that will disagree with you, our non-conf schedule was terrible, but i understand why Fran did it. I seriously think Fran didn't think Iowa would end the conference season 9-9. Starting 4 underclassmen in the toughest conference in the nation was a shocker to a lot of people. I think the 7 losses by 24pts (5 games with the lead late) will drive this team to improve and get better. I think they will be better just based off the rest of the conference losing some key players (that's why i said that).

Is there any speculation of anyone from UNI transferring or leaving? I think the addition of Waspun & Morgan will add some serious athletic talent to the roster. Along with mitchell will give UNI 3 solid guards (i know they had that this year) I just think they need to get another post player.

[1988]

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Anyway enough about Iowa state, this is a panther board. Don't want to become a pathetic troll like some of the hawk fans on here lol.

You get my vote for poster of the week. I think you have figured it out already but I will provide you with some information. 9yr has an app on his phone that when the letters i-o-w and a are typed by themselves it alerts him so that he can sign in to protect his beloved chokeyes. It's actually pretty amazing app because of how well it works. Watch.... i o w a

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[Hoiball]

Re: Who wants to play in Carver next week?

You aren't going to win this argument with 9yr. No one ever does. The only way to win is to present unbiased facts, not opinions. 9yr. is the only person to present solid, unbiased facts on this board. The problem is that Iowa is so great, all the facts point to Iowa being the best team. It's unfortunate. Hopefully the other state schools can catch up.

I personally agree with you that ISU is going to be the better team next year. Not because I dislike Iowa, but because I feel like Hoiberg is going to get more out of his team. Not every coach can take transfers and make it work. Hoiberg can do this because he has the name and respect to do it. I'm sure everyone of these transfers wants to play professionally when they are done at ISU. Hoiberg has the credibility to tell these kids this is what you need to do to get to that level, and what he expects while they are in his program.

I would put the turnaround at ISU right up there with what Tom Crean has done at Indiana. ISU didn't have the sanctions that Indiana did, but ISU also doesn't have the history and name recognition that Indiana does. Kids will go to Indiana because it is Indiana. The transfers are bringing the program back and I expect Hoiberg will start bringing in a lot of real good players right out of high school.

It's good to hear praise like that for fred from a fan of another state school. We are very excited to see what he can do over the next 20+ years. The thing I think is funny about Iowa fans is when they say "they are doing it the right way", Iowa state has 3 top 100 high school players coming in over the next 2 years, Iowa has 0. I have a hard time taking Iowa too seriously untill they get a top 100 recruit from somewhere other than Sioux city. It's not all about rankings for recruits, but when all the other teams In the big 10 are bringing in 5 stars and upper level 4 stars you better pray that you find multiple sleepers.

[Hoiball]

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You get my vote for poster of the week. I think you have figured it out already but I will provide you with some information. 9yr has an app on his phone that when the letters i-o-w and a are typed by themselves it alerts him so that he can sign in to protect his beloved chokeyes. It's actually pretty amazing app because of how well it works. Watch.... i o w a

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Haha thanks! Ya I have read his posts, he definitely acts like most hawk fans that think all of the other state schools should bend over for them. Wonder what his screen name is on cyclonefanatic or drakenation?

[PantherHawk]

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I personally feel that Fran is trying to close the boarders to Iowa. There have been a lot of great talent leave the state and I think that is his is goal. Get the in-state kids that are rated high, he doesn't like to see kids leave the state and go to other schools. Also recently they have started to hit the Chicago Market (but lets be honest his roster is still full of Lick recruits). He still has another year the class of 2014 will be his chance to land a solid class.

[1988]

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Haha thanks! Ya I have read his posts, he definitely acts like most hawk fans that think all of the other state schools should bend over for them. Wonder what his screen name is on cyclonefanatic or drakenation?

He doesn't go on those sites. They aren't worthy of his presence.

[Khan4Cats]

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Way to cherry pick the only stat showing (small) improvement when every other measurement says we are the basically the same team.

Yet that is the only stat that can be fairly compared from year to year since all others vary based on your competition. At least with conference record, you know you are comparing how you did against the same teams from the previous year, out of conference schedule fluctuates so wildly it cna't be accurate. Go ahead and compare FG%, 3pt%, FT% etc. I think you will see not a lot of variance from this year to last, or even the year prior, or the year prior. Same with ppg scored, ppg given up, etc.

You're right. We are the same team, playing the same system each year. The results are pretty solid as well. Not as good as we all hoped, but they aren't in the gutter either. Get a couple of bounces or calls to go our way and we are waiting by the phone for the Dance instead of clinging to hope for the NIT. Such is life in competition sports.

[Codytwo]

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4 juco and 2 four star freshman recruits coming for isu. They will be very good next year.

Damn we need to get some juco talent. It is obvious to everyone but Jake I swear.

I'm pretty sure Ali was recruited by Jake and he came from a JUCO.

[Kyle]

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What are you talking about? The only stat that can be fairly compared year to year is conference record? We are playing the same WSU team we did last year?

You are crazy if you think this years UNI team isn't a mirror image of last years team.

Team A:
18-14 (11-7 :: 3rd)
RPI: 83
SOS: 46
BPI: 69
Postseason: TBD--likely NIT or CIT

Team B:
19-13 (9-9 :: T3rd)
RPI: 72
SOS: 50
BPI: 65
Postseason: NIT (2nd round)

[9YRPLAN]

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What does that have to do with their ability on the floor? Neither player will be world beaters but they are going to be huge for deffense and rebounding.

I thought that it would have been clear that i was referring to your character comment.

[achrist70]

Re: Who wants to play in Carver next week?

What are you talking about? The only stat that can be fairly compared year to year is conference record? We are playing the same WSU team we did last year?

You are crazy if you think this years UNI team isn't a mirror image of last years team.

Team A:
18-14 (11-7 :: 3rd)
RPI: 83
SOS: 46
BPI: 69
Postseason: TBD--likely NIT or CIT

Team B:
19-13 (9-9 :: T3rd)
RPI: 72
SOS: 50
BPI: 65
Postseason: NIT (2nd round)

If you give this years team last year's schedule I think you see a 23 win or so team, that being said this year's team SHOULD have been about a 24 win team.

[achrist70]

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Just an FYI we are now projected as a #4 seed in the NIT

[Codytwo]

Re: Who wants to play in Carver next week?

Just an FYI we are now projected as a #4 seed in the NIT

by who????

[Born-a-Panther]

Re: Who wants to play in Carver next week?

Just an FYI we are now projected as a #4 seed in the NIT

Wow... by who???