New Valley Team (to replace Crayton)

[Born-a-Panther]

Re: New Valley Team (to replace Crayton)

Is this really the best we can do?

[JD720]

Re: New Valley Team (to replace Crayton)

Is this really the best we can do?

If it is, we're better off at 9.

[williebat]

If it is, we're better off at 9.

If it is we are better off in the Mac

[northwest iowa panther]

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Pompous group aren't we? So far we've eliminated most schools in the upper Midwest, most of the schools with religious affiliations and schools that their basketball team won't keep us in the top ten in the rpi. We are limited because of conference tv contract, arena and fan support numbers, location of schools in the conference and stronger conferences already realigning. With all this we should be able to get all nine remaining schools to agree on the next invitee.

Yes ten is a number that works best for scheduling of all sports. However, if the conference can step up and continue two and three bids to the men's tourney then dividing the conference shares by nine is better than 10. My guess is the baseball schools will have the greatest say.

Remember it's the conference presidents that decide.

[UNIpanther99]

Re: New Valley Team (to replace Crayton)

Pompous group aren't we? So far we've eliminated most schools in the upper Midwest, most of the schools with religious affiliations and schools that their basketball team won't keep us in the top ten in the rpi. We are limited because of conference tv contract, arena and fan support numbers, location of schools in the conference and stronger conferences already realigning. With all this we should be able to get all nine remaining schools to agree on the next invitee.

Yes ten is a number that works best for scheduling of all sports. However, if the conference can step up and continue two and three bids to the men's tourney then dividing the conference shares by nine is better than 10. My guess is the baseball schools will have the greatest say.

Remember it's the conference presidents that decide.

If this decision is made on baseball, we need to GTFO.

[northwest iowa panther]

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If this decision is made on baseball, we need to GTFO.

Let me do the math. Ten conference schools, minus two that dropped baseball, minus Crieghton = seven. I think requisites to be the following: baseball, warmer weather, and an all around good all sports program.

Cold weather baseball schools not considered (they might drop the sport at any time). As far as leaving as some sort of threat to the conference, we need the MVC. We don't need to be adrift in these tulmultous times.

[UNIpanther99]

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Let me do the math. Ten conference schools, minus two that dropped baseball, minus Crieghton = seven. I think requisites to be the following: baseball, warmer weather, and an all around good all sports program.

Cold weather baseball schools not considered (they might drop the sport at any time). As far as leaving as some sort of threat to the conference, we need the MVC. We don't need to be adrift in these tulmultous times.

I'm not proposing any sort of threat. But I am saying if the major factor in adding Oral Roberts or any other university ends up being their baseball program, the MVC will be on the road to basketball mediocrity and it's time to look elsewhere.

[ubuntuCAT]

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Men's basketball should be the only sport looked at when considering adding a new school.

[achrist70]

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Belmont is the best fit I really don't know why that isn't apparent to more people. Let's look at their athletic programs.

Basketball: They have been to the dance multiple time over the last decade.
Baseball: They have a team
Volleyball: They have a team, and who care how good they are it is a battle for 2nd place behind Bobbi and the Panthers anyway.
Men's Soccer: They have a team
Football: No team, this is a big plus over Murray State which does have a team, don't need to find a place to put their football team.

They have all of the programs that the valley needs and is good at basketball in a big market that we are not currently in.

I want the Bruins

[williebat]

Belmont is the best fit I really don't know why that isn't apparent to more people. Let's look at their athletic programs.

Basketball: They have been to the dance multiple time over the last decade.
Baseball: They have a team
Volleyball: They have a team, and who care how good they are it is a battle for 2nd place behind Bobbi and the Panthers anyway.
Men's Soccer: They have a team
Football: No team, this is a big plus over Murray State which does have a team, don't need to find a place to put their football team.

They have all of the programs that the valley needs and is good at basketball in a big market that we are not currently in.

I want the Bruins

This odds my choice add well. They are winners.

[UNIpanther99]

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If you don't like Oral Roberts for their views and political positions, why Belmont? They fired their women's soccer coach 3 years ago when they found out she was expecting a child with a same-sex partner.

If their recent basketball success is enough to overlook something like that, I can except that explanation. But for me, I'm just not sure I'm comfortable having UNI associated with a school that does something like that without assurances that they have somehow changed.

[williebat]

If you don't like Oral Roberts for their views and political positions, why Belmont? They fired their women's soccer coach 3 years ago when they found out she was expecting a child with a same-sex partner.

If their recent basketball success is enough to overlook something like that, I can except that explanation. But for me, I'm just not sure I'm comfortable having UNI associated with a school that does something like that without assurances that they have somehow changed.

Did not know that. I agree 100%.

[BCPanther]

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If you don't like Oral Roberts for their views and political positions, why Belmont? They fired their women's soccer coach 3 years ago when they found out she was expecting a child with a same-sex partner.

If their recent basketball success is enough to overlook something like that, I can except that explanation. But for me, I'm just not sure I'm comfortable having UNI associated with a school that does something like that without assurances that they have somehow changed.

I understand where you are coming from 99, but the #1 issue is money and success.

[UNIpanther99]

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I understand where you are coming from 99, but the #1 issue is money and success.

That's a fair answer and I can accept that point of view.

[Dexter58]

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I'm not in favor of ORU but, I do remember everyone saying the same about us about 20 yrs ago. That we didn't belong in the MVC.