New Valley Team (to replace Crayton)

[Herdman]

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Okay, more exposure in the best basketball town in the entire country is not attractive to the MVC, yet Nashville and other back water towns is.

From the sounds of it, UW-Milwaukee and Belmont are the obvious choices then.

[SteinPizza]

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What's wrong with UIC?

I think Loyola (IL) and UIC would be great fits.

Plus it opens up another market for UNI to get into.

Of the two, I'd take Loyola over UIC, due to past success and resources. Both have med schools, and Loyola also has a law school. Hence, alumni with money to donate. The TV market doesn't hurt either, but Loyola gets almost no press here. To generate any buzz, they'd have to be pretty damn good, since you'd have to beat out Illinois, Northwestern, Notre Dame, DePaul, etc. for news coverage.

I'd see Loyola as a pretty viable candidate if they'd had more recent success. However, their coach is Porter Moser, formerly of Illinois State. They just built a new on campus arena, and have some donors who are willing to thow some serious money around. If they were a consistently better Horizon League program, they'd be getting a phone call.

[achrist70]

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I didn't say being in Chicago would be a bad thing, but I just think that we are already there, and it is so saturated with basketball does it really improve the league?

Yes Chicago is a better basketball town than Nashville or Milwaukee but they are less saturated

[1988]

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NDSU!!! RPI 78 good future new arena and great Olympic sports.

Oral ran from summit league cuz ndsu beat them in every sport

I don't know that our conference has curling.

[northwest iowa panther]

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Some talent falls through the cracks..........Nate Wolters.

Okay, more exposure in the best basketball town in the entire country is not attractive to the MVC, yet Nashville and other back water towns is.

From the sounds of it, UW-Milwaukee and Belmont are the obvious choices then.

We're being pompous about who we want to invite. Let's play with 9 since one of our own will be the defending national champion.

[panther-state]

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As much as I want to see Wichita suceed...that would be unbearable. Can you imagine that fanbase? It's bad enough if they make the final four

[jnutt]

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As much as I want to see Wichita suceed...that would be unbearable. Can you imagine that fanbase? It's bad enough if they make the final four

they live in Wichita. What the hell else are they supposed to do?

[SteinPizza]

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We're being pompous about who we want to invite. Let's play with 9 since one of our own will be the defending national champion.

No, we're not. It's not pompous to automatically exclude a bunch of small town, upper Midwest basketball schools with largely inferior talent. It's realistic, and business driven. Remember, this is a men's basketball driven decision. If it was football, it would be a little different.

[williebat]

they live in Wichita. What the hell else are they supposed to do?

Good point. Go shockers

[northwest iowa panther]

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No, we're not. It's not pompous to automatically exclude a bunch of small town, upper Midwest basketball schools with largely inferior talent. It's realistic, and business driven. Remember, this is a men's basketball driven decision. If it was football, it would be a little different.

People on this board keep going back to this, but if message boards were around when we joined the conference, what would have been said about us?

[BCPanther]

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People on this board keep going back to this, but if message boards were around when we joined the conference, what would have been said about us?

Didn't need message boards, people out and out said it to our faces. People were pissed, especially Rich Herrin at SIU.

I remember Bradley having to play us in the West Gym when the Dome collapsed and the 5 Seasons Center wasn't available and Jim Molinari saying we should be kicked out of the league.

[JayJ79]

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this kind of reminds me of an editorial I saw in the Courier about how everyone up here didn't think Cedar Rapids should get a casino, that there were already "enough". And the line that carried the most weight for me: "but of course we think that way. WE ALREADY HAVE OURS".

[06panther10]

Instead, Molonari was kicked out of the league, and he now coaches at a place called Waste Management Arena in Macomb Illinois.

[williebat]

People on this board keep going back to this, but if message boards were around when we joined the conference, what would have been said about us?

The league is a million times better now than it was when we joined. We have capital why not use it?

[Herdman]

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As much as I want to see Wichita suceed...that would be unbearable. Can you imagine that fanbase? It's bad enough if they make the final four

I think they have the best fan base in the conference, especially now that Creighton is gone.