Up Next: Virginia Commonwealth

[FOTY]

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Wes absolutely should be starting. He's one of the best guards in the state and is better than any current guard Iowa has.

No reason for him not to be out there as much as possible.

Starting or not starting, he's getting starting minutes, and that's what matters. I'm good with that rotation.

[achrist70]

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I have taken some time to process things from last night. To me it comes down to a few things

1. Free throws, we started making them at the end, but 1-8 to start is unacceptable, further more, we are facing a team that was shooting around 50% on the year, and they decide to make them.

2. Rebounding, we can not continue to give up so many second chances

3. Movement on the offensive end, we were up 9 about 6 minutes into the game, and yes we had a few turnovers, but we got stagnate there for about 10 or so minutes, when we move on offense and attack we are good.

4. Using our depth, I personally didn't think we used our depth that well, I know you have to go with the hot lineup down the stretch, but I think if we would have had a couple subs during the 1st OT we win the game there.

5. End of game plays, I don't mind the isolation at the end of the game, and you should always go for the last shot, but when the man came and helped at the end of regulation, Paul was left wide open for 3, little kick out, good jump shot, I like our chances, better than trying to muscle your way into the lane.

Overall looking at the circumstances with travel, and the way VCU plays, I don't think there are many teams in the nation that would have even had a chance to win that game, get a little rest, pass our finals, BEAT IOWA!

[BCPanther]

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Is this year's noncon better than the 2010 team? I think the Valley is no better, if not worse, right now than it was in 2010 and that team went 15-3 in conference, 10-1 out of league, spent most of the season ranked, and blew away the field at Arch Madness to get to 28-4 and they were only a 9 seed. I don't see this situation as entirely different from that one. That team was better than a 9 seed, but didn't get the credit for it because the committee didn't respect the Valley.

This year's is better. That schedule was built on getting to play Tennessee and\or Purdue at The Paradise Jam, but we crapped the bed against DePaul. We got lucky with getting to play ODU in February.

[12thFloorBender]

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I have taken some time to process things from last night. To me it comes down to a few things

1. Free throws, we started making them at the end, but 1-8 to start is unacceptable, further more, we are facing a team that was shooting around 50% on the year, and they decide to make them.

2. Rebounding, we can not continue to give up so many second chances

3. Movement on the offensive end, we were up 9 about 6 minutes into the game, and yes we had a few turnovers, but we got stagnate there for about 10 or so minutes, when we move on offense and attack we are good.

4. Using our depth, I personally didn't think we used our depth that well, I know you have to go with the hot lineup down the stretch, but I think if we would have had a couple subs during the 1st OT we win the game there.

5. End of game plays, I don't mind the isolation at the end of the game, and you should always go for the last shot, but when the man came and helped at the end of regulation, Paul was left wide open for 3, little kick out, good jump shot, I like our chances, better than trying to muscle your way into the lane.

Overall looking at the circumstances with travel, and the way VCU plays, I don't think there are many teams in the nation that would have even had a chance to win that game, get a little rest, pass our finals, BEAT IOWA!

I'd add layups to that. That's been a problem all season long. For some reason those easy ones are difficult at times.

[Cannic88]

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You guys who think we need to be 27-3 to get an at large are crazy.

If we are 27-3 headed into the conference tournament we'll be looking at a 6-7 seed with the potential to move into a 4-5 seed if we snag the auto bid.

Anything better than a 14-4 record in the MVC gets us in the dance regardless of what happens next week in Des Moines.

careful...we also were supposed to be about a 6 seed in 2010...ended up a 9 seed. we will be critiqued mightily come selection sunday and it won't play in our favor.

[FOTY]

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1. Free throws, we started making them at the end, but 1-8 to start is unacceptable, further more, we are facing a team that was shooting around 50% on the year, and they decide to make them.

Quick question from a person who has not played basketball for... well, longer than some on here have been alive. Did the fact we were unable to get into the arena the night before impact our free throw shooting?

I know we made a big deal a few years ago when Siena kept us out of the arena until game time. There has been minimal mention of that this time around.

[Kyle]

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Is this year's noncon better than the 2010 team? I think the Valley is no better, if not worse, right now than it was in 2010 and that team went 15-3 in conference, 10-1 out of league, spent most of the season ranked, and blew away the field at Arch Madness to get to 28-4 and they were only a 9 seed. I don't see this situation as entirely different from that one. That team was better than a 9 seed, but didn't get the credit for it because the committee didn't respect the Valley.

Not only is this years non-conference schedule more challenging, the Valley is better than it was in 2010, especially at the top. We have two teams ranked in the top 25 and one hovering just outside the top 10. In 2010 we needed close to a 15 game winning streak just to crack the top 25. And if you remember in 2010 CU was a play in team and right in the middle of their death spiral.

[BCPanther]

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Quick question from a person who has not played basketball for... well, longer than some on here have been alive. Did the fact we were unable to get into the arena the night before impact our free throw shooting?

I know we made a big deal a few years ago when Siena kept us out of the arena until game time. There has been minimal mention of that this time around.

No.

The hoop is still 15 feet away and, to be honest, it's pretty close to the same setup as the McLeod Center. It's not an excuse here...

[ProwlingPanther]

Hoopfan, I encourage you to watch a couple Panther basketball games.

[Kyle]

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Wes beats Deon in nearly every single offensive statistical category while also being a much better defender.

Deon:

FG % :: .268
3P % :: .188
FT % :: .721
RPG :: 2.9
APG :: 2.3
SPG :: 1.1
BPG :: .1
TPG :: 2.1

Wes:

FG % :: .600
3P % :: .800
FT % :: .735
RPG :: 3.9
APG :: 3.3
SPG :: 1.2
BPG :: .7
TPG :: 2.2

['70 Grad]

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2. I'm surprised there wasn't more ire on here about what appeared to be a missed 3 second violation, which ended up leading to 2 points for the Rams. I had to go check the rule again, but it sure seemed like their guy pitched a tent in the lane for a while!

I know it isn't called very much, but boy was that blatant.

Had to wait a day & calm down before posting. I keep seeing these things:

Too bad about Matty Bo getting hit on that 3 ball. Wonder what he and the ref were smiling/talking about later? Can't hardly believe it was a flop. Announcers didn't think so.

Saw Seth getting chewed out pretty loud by Coach Jake. Seth walked away, didn't play much more. Was a message being sent? Has happened before to others.

Bennett still has a ways to go, even after 2 years on campus. Still amazes me how good Seth was as a true freshman.

Paul is coming into his own, but still could have done better. Had a late three that almost went down. I knew the 2 on 1 pass was early, but would have been nice to make it anyways. No excuse losing your man that badly on the baseline back door.

Our end of half/game plays are bad. Seems like we don't even get a shot off sometimes (certain players!). The play is always have one player go one on one - not even try to make them switch, to create a better match up. That being said, VCU's 3 at the end of the half was just sick.

This could be a home-team-wins series for years, although it sounds like their recruiting is high-level.

A win in Des Moines would make for great holidays!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[06panther10]

A day later and Im still pretty salty about this loss. This is one we shoulda had, and we let it slip away. This one is gonna sting.

Deon needs to have his role reduced even further. We simply are a better team with Wes and Wyatt put there, and Deon has proven time and time again to be a disaster in the clutch. I like the guy, and I wish it weren't the case, but we are 10 games into the season and he is a Senior. He's just not getting the job done.

[hoopfan]

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Hoopfan, I encourage you to watch a couple Panther basketball games.

I appreciate your encouragement. I'll just leave it at that.

[hoopfan]

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A day later and Im still pretty salty about this loss. This is one we shoulda had, and we let it slip away. This one is gonna sting.

Deon needs to have his role reduced even further. We simply are a better team with Wes and Wyatt put there, and Deon has proven time and time again to be a disaster in the clutch. I like the guy, and I wish it weren't the case, but we are 10 games into the season and he is a Senior. He's just not getting the job done.

What job are you looking for him to do?

[ProwlingPanther]

I think his best job would be backing up Wes and Wyatt