Up Next: Virginia Commonwealth

[GonzoCat]

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Mudra's back!

[Codytwo]

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Does Deon hold the UNI record for most turnovers in a career?

[achrist70]

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Deon currently has 243 turnovers, I highly doubt that is the record, or that he will break it

Brooks McKowen ended with 269 including 97 in his senior season. Kwadzo ended with 291 including 104 in 2009-10.

There are others that I am sure have big totals, these are just 2 who handled the ball a lot for 4 years.

[Khan4Cats]

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Does Deon hold the UNI record for most turnovers in a career?

achrist hit some numbers, but I'll add this:

Deon has fewer turnovers than Seth or Wes this year.

[UNIdad]

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achrist hit some numbers, but I'll add this:

Deon has fewer turnovers than Seth or Wes this year.

We need a new stat that includes missed open layups as turnovers.

[GonzoCat]

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We need a new stat that includes missed open layups as turnovers.

I've always thought, mostly with regard to awful free throw shooters, that if you get fouled and missed the front end or two free throws that should count as a turnover.

We don't really have any shooters that are that bad that teams would use the hackashaq technique, but there are some out there both college and pro I am sure.

[panther-state]

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I wonder how many free throws the guys have taken the past few days. Whatever the number it's still probably too few.

[catsize]

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We've got to be the worst 72% FT shooting team in the country.

[desertcat]

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interesting enough according to espn tuttle has 37 to's, wes 22, and deon 21.

[06panther10]

Tuttle and Wes have played many more minutes and have had the ball in their hands much more. On top of that, they have a ton of positive production in their stat lines.

Looking plainly at the turnover tally is essentially useless.

[desertcat]

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i thought the same thing too. but even though tuttle has played many more minutes, i would say there is no way he had the ball in his hands more then deon much if any at all. tuttle turns the ball over a lot. probably his one real weakness.

[BCPanther]

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Tuttle and Wes have played many more minutes and have had the ball in their hands much more. On top of that, they have a ton of positive production in their stat lines.

Looking plainly at the turnover tally is essentially useless.

Also, offensive fouls count as turnovers as well. Seth gets his fair share there...

[panther-state]

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We've got to be the worst 72% FT shooting team in the country.

Out of 10 games this year we've missed at least 6-10 FT's in 7 games. We were 31-34 in the VT and North Florida games, and 19-23 against Denver last week. When you continue to put yourself at the line that often its a great thing. However, when you can't convert you're leaving yourself wide open to disappointment like on Saturday. That game was lost on the mental side of the ball with silly breakdowns in defense and missing so many opportunities at the line. I shudder to think how many 1-and-1's we've missed. .


Sure 71.5% isn't that low, but last year was 72% and I don't think we want a repeat of last year do we? We lost too many close games because we couldn't make those shots. All those tournament teams were much closer to 75%+ and that extra 4-5% can make all the difference in being a .500 team and being a Top 25 team. We're seeing that right now considering this is nearly the same team as last year.

[achrist70]

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Not trying to pick 1 person out, but in my eyes the person who needs to pick up the free throw shooting the most is Jeremy, yes it is easy to say that because he only is shooting 44%, but also he has only shot 9 of them. I think he needs to look to attack a little more often and get to the line. I mean how has Matt who supposedly shoots nothing but 3's have twice as many attempts.

[Panther-Sheik]

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We need a new stat that includes missed open layups as turnovers.

We need a new stat about how many PN posters can incessantly gripe and moan about one player.