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  • Re: Looking at 2015-2016

    I think Carlson will be able to develop a nice inside/out game.
    Originally posted by TH1974
    This guy was all-UNI, and wanted to show it by pretending to play a non-existant musical instrument in public.

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    • Re: Looking at 2015-2016

      Originally posted by Purrrrrfect View Post
      If koch gets a 3 pt shot... be a fun 6'10 swing 4
      If koch gets good down low. be a fun 6'10 quality 5.....

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      • Re: Looking at 2015-2016

        Originally posted by Purrrrrfect View Post
        If koch gets a 3 pt shot... be a fun 6'10 swing 4
        This made me cringe at first. Like many I don't want my 6'10 guys focused on shooting threes. One of the things I like about Bennett is that he seems to have very good potential to score in the lane first. Now if he does that first and adds a decent 3 point shot as a compliment then I understand how that can open things up.
        "My role is to lead, plain and simple. . . .I with the help of my staff and our administration, we will lead." --Ben Jacobson

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        • Re: Looking at 2015-2016

          So it's not okay fir a 6'9 kid with no real/true post game to shoot 3s but not a 6'10 kid with a post game? That's why I was saying if he got a hot 3 hand...he'd be the culmination of Tuttle and buss put together if he keeps getting better.

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          • Re: Looking at 2015-2016

            Originally posted by Purrrrrfect View Post
            So it's not okay fir a 6'9 kid with no real/true post game to shoot 3s but not a 6'10 kid with a post game? That's why I was saying if he got a hot 3 hand...he'd be the culmination of Tuttle and buss put together if he keeps getting better.
            To take a kid who has shown nothing as far as being an outside player, at any point in his career, and try to turn him into one - especially at 6'10 is a terrible move by every stretch of anyone's imagination. However, to take a kid who has played the wing his entire life and let him use that skill set is a great move. HUGE differences in them. Though, based on reading your posts since I joined, I'm not shocked you don't see the difference.

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            • Re: Looking at 2015-2016

              Regarding Luke McDonnell...I've seen a few different recruiting websites listing him as a 3-star recruit, which we don't get too often, whether or not it's deserved.

              Going by that metric, is he our highest-rated recruit since You Know Who?

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              • Re: Looking at 2015-2016

                Originally posted by claw View Post
                To take a kid who has shown nothing as far as being an outside player, at any point in his career, and try to turn him into one - especially at 6'10 is a terrible move by every stretch of anyone's imagination. However, to take a kid who has played the wing his entire life and let him use that skill set is a great move. HUGE differences in them. Though, based on reading your posts since I joined, I'm not shocked you don't see the difference.
                There was a coaches show during the season where coach said he expects Bennett to have the go ahead to shoot 3s by his junior year.

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                • Re: Looking at 2015-2016

                  Originally posted by claw View Post
                  To take a kid who has shown nothing as far as being an outside player, at any point in his career, and try to turn him into one - especially at 6'10 is a terrible move by every stretch of anyone's imagination. However, to take a kid who has played the wing his entire life and let him use that skill set is a great move. HUGE differences in them. Though, based on reading your posts since I joined, I'm not shocked you don't see the difference.
                  Then you must not understand literature, satire, or logic and love to not read carefully. Simply put, if Koch develops a long range jumper. He will be quite good and a player at 6'10 that would be a force on both ends of the floor. That simple enough for you?

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                  • Re: Looking at 2015-2016

                    Originally posted by Purrrrrfect View Post
                    Then you must not understand literature, satire, or logic and love to not read carefully. Simply put, if Koch develops a long range jumper. He will be quite good and a player at 6'10 that would be a force on both ends of the floor. That simple enough for you?
                    You said
                    Originally posted by Purrrrrfect View Post
                    If koch gets a 3 pt shot... be a fun 6'10 swing 4
                    I again state - to take a 6'10 kid who has shown no real outside game at any point in his career and try to turn him into a "swing 4", you're freaking words, or take time out of a post game that still needs to develop is a terrible move no matter how you want to spin it. To use Buss as an example of why it would be okay and should happen is just asinine.

                    It's the same way Jake, and crew, really screwed up with Marvin his first 2.5 years on campus. They wanted him to be a wing. Once they realized he was a post he blossomed as a player. Leave Bennett and Dahl in the post. There are other players than be a "swing 4".

                    You can question my ability to read, but it's damn tough to read something that has the grammar of my 3rd grade nephew when it comes to where periods are placed, typed like my 15 year old niece with the use of emojis, and using phrases like "understand literature" when a single word can easily replace it and make it a much more coherent thought (since when is a 2 sentence post "literature"?), etc... but until you clean those issues up doing so makes as much sense as turning a back to the basket post player into a swing anything.
                    Last edited by claw; 04-09-2015, 11:58 AM.

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                    • Re: Looking at 2015-2016

                      A few years ago Rivals, Scout, and ESPN (I believe) tweaked some of their star ratings to make things a little more exclusive. UNI had guys like Ben Jacobson, Brooks McKowen, Adam Koch, and Eglseder were all 3 star types in various rankings.
                      The Lord reigns, let the earth be glad; let the distant shores rejoice, clouds and thick darkness surround Him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne. Fire goes before Him, and consumes his foes on every side; His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles; the mountains melt like wax before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim His righteousness and all peoples will see His glory.

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                      • Re: Looking at 2015-2016

                        Originally posted by claw View Post
                        You said


                        I again state - to take a 6'10 kid who has shown no real outside game at any point in his career and try to turn him into a "swing 4", you're freaking words, or take time out of a post game that still needs to develop is a terrible move no matter how you want to spin it. To use Buss as an example of why it would be okay and should happen is just asinine.

                        It's the same way Jake, and crew, really screwed up with Marvin his first 2.5 years on campus. They wanted him to be a wing. Once they realized he was a post he blossomed as a player. Leave Bennett and Dahl in the post. There are other players than be a "swing 4".

                        You can question my ability to read, but it's damn tough to read something that has the grammar of my 3rd grade nephew when it comes to where periods are placed, typed like my 15 year old niece with the use of emojis, and using phrases like "understand literature" when a single word can easily replace it and make it a much more coherent thought (since when is a 2 sentence post "literature"?), etc... but until you clean those issues up doing so makes as much sense as turning a back to the basket post player into a swing anything.
                        Well said. No need to put him out on the perimeter. Let him be a true post. If he has the ability to face up and hit a 15 foot jumper, let him, but no need to have him out hoisting 3's. We have enough guys who can already do that.

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                        • Re: Looking at 2015-2016

                          Originally posted by claw View Post
                          I again state - to take a 6'10 kid who has shown no real outside game at any point in his career and try to turn him into a "swing 4", you're freaking words, or take time out of a post game that still needs to develop is a terrible move no matter how you want to spin it. To use Buss as an example of why it would be okay and should happen is just asinine.

                          It's the same way Jake, and crew, really screwed up with Marvin his first 2.5 years on campus. They wanted him to be a wing. Once they realized he was a post he blossomed as a player. Leave Bennett and Dahl in the post. There are other players than be a "swing 4".

                          You can question my ability to read, but it's damn tough to read something that has the grammar of my 3rd grade nephew when it comes to where periods are placed, typed like my 15 year old niece with the use of emojis, and using phrases like "understand literature" when a single word can easily replace it and make it a much more coherent thought (since when is a 2 sentence post "literature"?), etc... but until you clean those issues up doing so makes as much sense as turning a back to the basket post player into a swing anything.
                          Originally posted by hoopfan View Post
                          Well said. No need to put him out on the perimeter. Let him be a true post. If he has the ability to face up and hit a 15 foot jumper, let him, but no need to have him out hoisting 3's. We have enough guys who can already do that.
                          LOL at people who apparently have never watched a Ben Jacobson coached team.

                          Number of players who saw/have seen regular time under Jake: somewhere around 40
                          Number of players who did not have the 3-pointer as a part of their arsenal: Coleman, Pehl, Rodenberg, Friedman-to this point, Koch-to this point
                          Number of times on Sports Illustrated cover:
                          Ben Jacobson coached teams = 2
                          UNI teams coached by everyone ban thinks is better = 0

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                          • Re: Looking at 2015-2016

                            Originally posted by claw View Post


                            I again state - to take a 6'10 kid who has shown no real outside game at any point in his career and try to turn him into a "swing 4", you're freaking words,

                            [...]

                            You can question my ability to read, but it's damn tough to read something that has the grammar of my 3rd grade nephew when it comes to where periods are placed, typed like my 15 year old niece with the use of emojis, and using phrases like "understand literature" when a single word can easily replace it and make it a much more coherent thought (since when is a 2 sentence post "literature"?), etc...
                            As long as we're being insecure and nitpicky about grammar, you used the wrong version of your.

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                            • Re: Looking at 2015-2016

                              Originally posted by Panthers to the Bone View Post
                              A few years ago Rivals, Scout, and ESPN (I believe) tweaked some of their star ratings to make things a little more exclusive. UNI had guys like Ben Jacobson, Brooks McKowen, Adam Koch, and Eglseder were all 3 star types in various rankings.
                              Doesn't matter what the rankings are, they are skewed by who is recruiting you. If a kid is a 3-4 star and all of sudden gets offered by Kentucky, he is immediately upgraded to a 5 star.

                              Likewise if kid is a 4-5 star and commits to UNI/Iowa/Drake his stars will go down. Its bound to happen.

                              Tyler Ulis was something like high 3 maybe low 4 and then blew up on the AAU circuit and signed with Kentucky, his star rating changed to a 5 star after he signed.

                              personally star rankings mean squat, if the kid is committed to working hard, they can become a great basketball player regardless of their ranking.

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                              • Re: Looking at 2015-2016

                                Luke McDonnell was consistently listed as a 2-star, had a great summer after committing to UNI and got a 3rd star added.

                                The system has gotten much, much better.

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