Looking at 2015-2016

[cydave]

Re: Looking at 2015-2016

How many JUCO kids from Iowa (Marshalltown, Kirkwood, Elsworth, Iowa Central, etc...) are actually recruited by D1 schools and actually play any significant time?

I know Illinois State had Tyler Brown from Marshalltown that was a very nice player for them. However, he was a 6'3 guard...not a 7' center with 8' range and 98" vertical.

He was also suspended during his senior season for a "violation of team rules" that ended up being getting caught (by posting his activity on social media) doing illegal drugs and drinking "sizzurp". Shockingly ISU gave him a harsh punishment a suspension that started Jan 9 and saw him reinstated for the Jan 16 game against WSU..

He had some flashy dunks, but his senior year 205 of his 411 shots were 3 pointers (49.9999%). He also had an A:TO < 1.

Any other Iowa JUCOs that I'm unaware of, and I'm sure there are some I am unaware quite honestly.

Just because a kid can run really fast or jump really high doesn't mean he can play D1 basketball at a level that isn't "low-major". Go watch the MAAC, Big West, OVC, Big South, SWAC, etc... Those programs are filled with kids that are extremely athletic - long, fast, can jump, etc... but there is a reason they are at Niagra, Liberty, Charleston Southern, Southern, Cal State-Insert one of the 100 of them, etc...

The college game is about system and players fitting the system more than athletic guys running up and down the court. The NBA is certainly about athleticism. College isn't.

As for Iowa's Juco talent, ISU has had some great players from local colleges.
Notables from the Hoiberg era:
Jameel McKay, Indian Hills - Big 12 Defensive player of the year
Dustin Hogue, Indian Hills - All Big 12 Honorable Mention
Will Clyburn, Marshalltown CC - All Big 12 2nd team & Newcomer of the year.

[06panther10]

Re: Looking at 2015-2016

McKay and Clyburn are not true JUCO players. They were high major D1 transfers from Utah and Marquette.

[cydave]

Re: Looking at 2015-2016

UNI has been to the tournament more times than ISU has in this past decade.

UNI has taken many D1 transfers, JUCO transfers, and a mix of in-state and out of state HS players in that time, which has been a period of unprecedented success.

I don't even know what you are are arguing anymore, because you are just blatantly ignoring actual results.

Since 2005, I believe both UNI and ISU have been to the dance 5 times.

Getting Juco's and transfers has really helped ISU. Since Hoiberg changed the way ISU recruited ISU has been to 4 straight NCAA's (soon to be 5) top 10 rankings and a preseason top 10 ranking heading into next year. He did that because it was the easiest way ISU could compete year in and year out. I'm really glad the new coach is going to be doing the same thing.

I guess I'm not even sure what the original point is? Are UNI fans against taking transfers and Juco's or what?

[claw]

Re: Looking at 2015-2016

I guess I'm not even sure what the original point is? Are UNI fans against taking transfers and Juco's or what?

No. Against taking JUCO kids because they can jump really high or run really fast or, to make stein happy, aren't white and from towns in Iowa less than 20K. Against taking kids that don't fit the system. If there is a JUCO kid that fits what UNI is trying to do then by all means bring him in. Ali is a perfect example of that.

There is also the fact that a kid out of HS can give you 4 or 5 years to develop him the way you want him developed.

[Kyle]

Re: Looking at 2015-2016

JUCO's and transfers are good options to fill an immediate need, but not a great way to build out an entire roster.

I find it funny the best player in UNI history just happens to be a undersized white kid from small town Iowa. He matches almost none of the criteria given here by R&B and Stein. Heck, Tuttle isn't even all that athletic compared to some past UNI players (Coleman/Washpun/James).

[run&blade]

Re: Looking at 2015-2016

McKay and Clyburn are not true JUCO players. They were high major D1 transfers from Utah and Marquette.

Weird, Mccay has a YouTube video from his days at Indian hills. Maybe Marquette was playing on the road.

[BCPanther]

Re: Looking at 2015-2016

McKay played at IH because he didn't qualify out of high school, transferred to MU and then to Iowa State after Buzz left.

He was going to Marquette out of high school before he couldn't get an ACT score.

[06panther10]

Re: Looking at 2015-2016

Weird, Mccay has a YouTube video from his days at Indian hills. Maybe Marquette was playing on the road.

I wouldnt expect you to understand the difference. I bet you were a community college grad weren't you?

[ProwlingPanther]

Friedman scored 17 points and led his PTL team in points. Reports are he looks way more in tuned with his game. Great news!! Also looks like Dahl had double digits as well. It's only PTL but it's good to see players playing well. Especially our young bigs.

[Moose39]

Re: Looking at 2015-2016

Updated roster with the new recruits on UNIPanthers.com

Friedman is listed at 6-9 245
Dahl is listed at 6-11 250
Koch is listed at 6-9 232
McDonnell is listed at 6-9 210

Plenty of time for these guys to develop and get better

[UNIChippewa]

Re: Looking at 2015-2016

Updated roster with the new recruits on UNIPanthers.com

Friedman is listed at 6-9 245
Dahl is listed at 6-11 250
Koch is listed at 6-9 232
McDonnell is listed at 6-9 210

Plenty of time for these guys to develop and get better

Has there been any word yet on what kind of punishment/suspension Aarias is going to face for his arrest?

I'm glad to see he's still on the roster. There was at least one poster on here who wanted his scholly revoked.

[otter]

Re: Looking at 2015-2016

Anybody know anything on Koch's ankle injury that is keeping him out of the PTL?

[95UNIGRAD]

Re: Looking at 2015-2016

Updated roster with the new recruits on UNIPanthers.com

Friedman is listed at 6-9 245
Dahl is listed at 6-11 250
Koch is listed at 6-9 232
McDonnell is listed at 6-9 210

Plenty of time for these guys to develop and get better

Would this be the most players 6'9" and over we've ever had on a roster?

[dan_beeding]

Re: Looking at 2015-2016

Would this be the most players 6'9" and over we've ever had on a roster?

Off the top of my head, didn't the 2010 team have 4? Or was Pehl not on that team?

[ProwlingPanther]

Off the top of my head, didn't the 2010 team have 4? Or was Pehl not on that team?

I can think of 3 from 2010, Jordan, Austin and Jake Koch. Adam Koch was 6'8" I believe. Lucas and Rodenberg were 6'6" at the most. Could be missing someone though.