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  • Re: Up Next: Southern Illinois

    Originally posted by SoccerDobber View Post
    We shot poorly and still had a chance while Beane played amazingly. Wouldn't be surprised if we win by 7-14 at home.

    Sent from my LGUS990 using Tapatalk
    We are 7-14 points better at home

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    • Re: Up Next: Southern Illinois

      BTW why did we take 5 mins to look at Carlsons 3 but took 5 mins to NOT look at Bohannons "2" in the 1st half. I thought that was a clear 3. Not saying that completely changed the game but that extra point may have loomed large later.

      Also what took so long for the foul at the end of the game or why was one not given before that last SIU bucket? I thought our guys committed enough contact for a whistle

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      • Re: Up Next: Southern Illinois

        Even with free throw % not great, we were a +5 pts.

        3 pt. shooting -15 pts.

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        • Re: Up Next: Southern Illinois

          Originally posted by orangetennis View Post
          Did they ever check Bo's 3 they called a 2 early in the first half?
          No, they never looked at the monitors. Not sure what kind of discussion was being done during that time

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          • Re: Up Next: Southern Illinois

            I'm pretty sure the officials swallowed their whistles towards the end their when SIU got their last basket and didn't call a fairly obvious foul on us to send them to the line, and it looked like the coaching staff got all over their case, as they should have. Might not have won the game for us, but with the way SIU was missing foul shots at the end it could have given us a better chance.

            Disappointing loss, but I'm glad the guys found a way to fight back their towards the end when we could have gotten blown out by double digits. Beane is for real; it's still way too early, but you could make the case for him being the MVC Player of the Year at this point. SIU looks legit; they're going to be a tough out for anyone. I think we will be to, despite tonight's result.

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            • Re: Up Next: Southern Illinois

              Would love to see us get back to that complete lockdown defense. The hand check changes have made an impact, but it still seems like there a lot of times where we are letting the opposing players just blow by us and get to the rim. We're not going to physically overmatch teams but even in the faster paced games, we've still got to be able to stay between the opposing players and the rim.

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              • Re: Up Next: Southern Illinois

                Originally posted by panther-state View Post
                No, they never looked at the monitors. Not sure what kind of discussion was being done during that time
                Rima said they did.
                Selling a lot of old UNI stuff here: http://www.panthernation.com/showthread.php?t=65762

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                • Re: Up Next: Southern Illinois

                  Originally posted by Username View Post
                  Thoughts

                  1. The only thing SIU could miss all night was FT's.

                  2. What happened to Bohannon. Bad shooting slump.

                  3. Announcers were biased as hell. I know they were for SIU, but they could have tempered themselves a bit.

                  4. What a joke from the SIU coach trying to weasel that 1 point continuously at end, ruining the flow.

                  5. Needed more Lohaus in the 2nd half. Guys were gassed.

                  6. I said earlier this is one we could probably drop and be ok, but 8-6 is not where we wanna be.
                  Agreed. The guys played their a$$es off. Especially Lohaus, Jesperson, and Washpun. We don't have it this year. Coaches don't prepare us enough. We play only 7 guys. Different players have off nights. It needs to be three W's in 3 days at Scottrade Center. We won't have the legs with our short bench in St. Louis to win out. We will do quite well to be the last NIT at large bid. Next year we'll be deeper all around. However, many Freshman guards will have to play. I'm betting Coach Jake sticks around, but Wisconsin has far more resources.
                  Last edited by Panther100; 01-02-2016, 09:34 PM.

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                  • Re: Up Next: Southern Illinois

                    Originally posted by UNIChippewa View Post
                    I'm pretty sure the officials swallowed their whistles towards the end their when SIU got their last basket and didn't call a fairly obvious foul on us to send them to the line, and it looked like the coaching staff got all over their case, as they should have. Might not have won the game for us, but with the way SIU was missing foul shots at the end it could have given us a better chance.

                    Disappointing loss, but I'm glad the guys found a way to fight back their towards the end when we could have gotten blown out by double digits. Beane is for real; it's still way too early, but you could make the case for him being the MVC Player of the Year at this point. SIU looks legit; they're going to be a tough out for anyone. I think we will be to, despite tonight's result.
                    Yea, everybody knows were trying to foul in that situation, usually refs call it if there's literally any contact in that spot.
                    To avoid confusion - my username is baseball (Cy Young award) related, NOT for the Cyclones.

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                    • Re: Up Next: Southern Illinois

                      Originally posted by ilovecats View Post
                      RPI of 48 with 2 big time wins is not on the bubble
                      48 is pretty clearly on the bubble. The two wins might mean we ride that bubble into the Tournament.
                      But - now we cannot lose to any more than 2 or it's not even bubble.

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                      • Re: Up Next: Southern Illinois

                        Originally posted by sivert View Post
                        48 is pretty clearly on the bubble. The two wins might mean we ride that bubble into the Tournament.
                        But - now we cannot lose to any more than 2 or it's not even bubble.
                        Yeah. I'm beginning to think that 14-4 or maybe even 15-3 is our floor to even be in the at-large discussion.

                        If we do make the NCAA tournament by winning the MVC or otherwise I really think we will have overachieved. This team is capable of producing great moments, but I just don't think we have the consistency or overall talent to keep on producing those great wins through the course of a 30+ game season.

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                        • Re: Up Next: Southern Illinois

                          Originally posted by Mudrafan View Post
                          Once again, when we struggle....it is due to lack of commitment to an inside game. I love Coach Jake, but developing an inside presence is not his specialty. This is why some year's we struggle so much like this. Right now, we are way underachieving. My hunch is he has his eyes on another gig.
                          This is going to come off as mean, but since I think you're one of the meaner, angrier, more aggressive posters on here I'm not going to lose any sleep over it...but you really just shouldn't post about anything basketball related.

                          I don't remember one single post from you all of last year from our amazing season except for at the very end after we lost to Louisville you make some silly observation about Coach Rutter (who hasn't been part of the staff for a number of years now). As for not developing an inside presence, did you honestly forget about Seth Tuttle being a freakin' 2nd-Team NATIONAL All-American player last season? Not to mention our all-time best team of 2009-10 featuring inside players by the name of Adam Koch and Jordan Eglseder? Let's see...who else? Grant Stout? Eric Coleman?

                          I don't question your passion for UNI, but seriously...when you write stuff like this you really just damage your own paper-thin credibility even more.

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                          • Re: Up Next: Southern Illinois

                            I'm bummed about the loss, but I'm encouraged by the progression of Carlson and Koch here in the last week. If that continues I feel better about Klint and Bennett being able to give 20-25 minutes each consistently, and thus keeping Paul more fresh down the stretch and not having to go 35 minutes every night.
                            The guys have work to do, but if they can make progress and start hitting their threes on the road, I'm more bullish on them. Glad to see Wyatt break out tonight.
                            The Lord reigns, let the earth be glad; let the distant shores rejoice, clouds and thick darkness surround Him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne. Fire goes before Him, and consumes his foes on every side; His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles; the mountains melt like wax before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim His righteousness and all peoples will see His glory.

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                            • Re: Up Next: Southern Illinois

                              Originally posted by UNIChippewa View Post
                              This is going to come off as mean, but since I think you're one of the meaner, angrier, more aggressive posters on here I'm not going to lose any sleep over it...but you really just shouldn't post about anything basketball related.

                              I don't remember one single post from you all of last year from our amazing season except for at the very end after we lost to Louisville you make some silly observation about Coach Rutter (who hasn't been part of the staff for a number of years now). As for not developing an inside presence, did you honestly forget about Seth Tuttle being a freakin' 2nd-Team NATIONAL All-American player last season? Not to mention our all-time best team of 2009-10 featuring inside players by the name of Adam Koch and Jordan Eglseder? Let's see...who else? Grant Stout? Eric Coleman?

                              I don't question your passion for UNI, but seriously...when you write stuff like this you really just damage your own paper-thin credibility even more.
                              I have a hell of a lot of credibility around people in the real world that matter (not on message boards). As great as Tuttle was, he did not play like a "5". Adam Koch certainly did not. Eglseder was a pure "5" but had very limited minutes. So did Coleman. Neither of those two played enough or were developed like they should have been. Grant Stout was another forward...not a center. They seek & develop "Euro" type bigs, but not traditional 5's. We are always way too guard oriented/perimeter oriented & have the most selfish pt guards I've ever seen. From Kwadzo to Deon & now Washpun. Their style drives me nuts. The opposition has learned to let them drive & collapse off of guys that can't shoot like Koch, to an extent Karlson & cover up our guards & Jesperson so the kick out 3 is not there. Washpun & Mitchell just flip the ball up or get fouled & miss free throws. We do not run much of an offense. Just a lot of free lancing by the pt guard. Jacobsen has been great & has taken us to new heights, but he is showing his lack of adjustment this year. This team did not lose key pieces outside of Tuttle & we should be even better than last year.

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                              • Re: Up Next: Southern Illinois

                                Yeah Deon, Buss and Singleton weren't key pieces to last year's success AT ALL. I can't believe we lost 5 seniors including an All-American, have played an even tougher schedule to begin the year and aren't well on our way to a 30+ win season.

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