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**UNIdad** · 03-01-2016, 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by Zakelsta View Post

First Team
Ron Baker, Wichita State, Sr.
D.J. Balentine, Evansville, Sr.
Anthony Beane, Southern Illinois, Sr.
Egidijus Mockevicius, Evansville, Sr.
Fred VanVleet, Wichita State, Sr.

Second Team
DeVaughn Akoon-Purcell, Illinois State, Sr.
Devonte Brown, Indiana State, Sr.
Montel James, Loyola, Sr.
Brenton Scott, Indiana State, Sophomore
Wes Washpun, UNI, Sr.

Honorable-Mention Selections
Matt Bohannon, UNI, Sr.
Paris Lee, Illinois State, Jr.
MiKyle McIntosh, Illinois State, So.
Dequon Miller, Missouri State, Jr.
Jeremy Morgan, UNI, Jr.
Reed Timmer, Drake, So.

All-Newcomer Team
Dequon Miller, Missouri State, Jr.
Anton Grady, Wichita State, Sr.
Mike Rodriguez. Southern Illinois, Jr.
Markis McDuffie, Wichita State, Fr.
Everett Clemons, Indiana State, Jr.

All-Freshman Team
Markis McDuffie, Wichita State
Obediah Church, Missouri State
Dwayne Lautier-Ogunleye, Bradley
Jarred Dixon, Missouri State
Luuk van Bree, Bradley

All-Defensive Team
Ron Baker, Wichita State, Sr.
Egidijus Mockevicius, Evansville, Sr.
Jeremy Morgan, UNI, Jr.
Fred VanVleet, Wichita State, Sr.
Paris Lee, Illinois State, Jr.

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Thoroughly outrageous to me that Wes isn't a first teamer. I understand I am very biased, but he is statically better than Van Vleet this year, and has been the best player on the court in every game he's played this season. It's similarly insane that Wes isn't on the all defensive team. Guy got robbed.

Concluding that these lists are in alphabetical order by last name, not by votes received.

**Gboom23** · 03-01-2016, 12:57 PM

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I know this has been mentioned on other threads, but oh boy, the Valley is losing a lot of senior talent this year. Next year might be rough for the league.

**Panther100** · 03-01-2016, 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by Gboom23 View Post

I know this has been mentioned on other threads, but oh boy, the Valley is losing a lot of senior talent this year. Next year might be rough for the league.

I think we'll hold the thirteenth scholarship until the 17-18 season. Starters: McDonnell, Koch, Morgan, Haldeman, Mcloud. Bench Freidman, Dahl, Carlson, Brown, W. Lohaus, Knar, and Conrey. R/S T. Lohaus. Of course, if we come up with a 2 guard (13th Scholy) in the off season Brown can R/S.

**DownGoesKansas** · 03-01-2016, 01:15 PM

Re: All Conference Teams

Originally posted by Panther100 View Post

I think we'll hold the thirteen scholarship until the 17-18 season. Starters: McDonnell, Koch, Morgan, Haldeman, Mcloud. Bench Freidman, Dahl, Carlson, Brown, W. Lohaus, Knar, and Conrey. R/S T. Lohaus. Of course, if we come up with a 2 guard (13th Scholy) in the off season Brown can R/S.

Lohaus will start. I would guess Haldeman starts at PG but we will see. Mcloud has a chance.

And I think McDonnel has a chance to start as well although Carlson has a very good chance as well.

**BCPanther** · 03-01-2016, 01:41 PM

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Starters:
McCloud
Lohaus
Morgan
Carlson
Koch

Bench (sort of in order):
McDonnell
Haldeman
Brown
Dahl
Friedman
Knar
Conrey

Redshirt:
Tanner Lohaus

1 ride open, would think we'd take a guard if we found the right one.

**Waverly_Panther** · 03-01-2016, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by BCPanther View Post

Starters:
McCloud
Lohaus
Morgan
Carlson
Koch

Bench (sort of in order):
McDonnell
Haldeman
Brown
Dahl
Friedman
Knar
Conrey

Redshirt:
Tanner Lohaus

1 ride open, would think we'd take a guard if we found the right one.

Agree with this. Look at the minutes Carlson is getting now. He will start at the 4.

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**Panther AC** · 03-01-2016, 02:55 PM

Re: All Conference Teams

Originally posted by UNIdad View Post

Concluding that these lists are in alphabetical order by last name, not by votes received.

No, 1st Team, 2nd Team and Honorable Mention are listed alphabetically by last name, but the other three are not, so they must be listed by votes received.

**DownGoesKansas** · 03-01-2016, 03:11 PM

Re: All Conference Teams

Originally posted by BCPanther View Post

Starters:
McCloud
Lohaus
Morgan
Carlson
Koch

Bench (sort of in order):
McDonnell
Haldeman
Brown
Dahl
Friedman
Knar
Conrey

Redshirt:
Tanner Lohaus

1 ride open, would think we'd take a guard if we found the right one.

From what I've been hearing, I think Haldemen will start and be very good. A PG who is a sharpshooter as well will be a very nice dynamic to have.

**UNIGrainer** · 03-01-2016, 03:29 PM

Re: All Conference Teams

Originally posted by Zakelsta View Post

First Team
Ron Baker, Wichita State, Sr.
D.J. Balentine, Evansville, Sr.
Anthony Beane, Southern Illinois, Sr.
Egidijus Mockevicius, Evansville, Sr.
Fred VanVleet, Wichita State, Sr.

Second Team
DeVaughn Akoon-Purcell, Illinois State, Sr.
Devonte Brown, Indiana State, Sr.
Montel James, Loyola, Sr.
Brenton Scott, Indiana State, Sophomore
Wes Washpun, UNI, Sr.

Honorable-Mention Selections
Matt Bohannon, UNI, Sr.
Paris Lee, Illinois State, Jr.
MiKyle McIntosh, Illinois State, So.
Dequon Miller, Missouri State, Jr.
Jeremy Morgan, UNI, Jr.
Reed Timmer, Drake, So.

All-Newcomer Team
Dequon Miller, Missouri State, Jr.
Anton Grady, Wichita State, Sr.
Mike Rodriguez. Southern Illinois, Jr.
Markis McDuffie, Wichita State, Fr.
Everett Clemons, Indiana State, Jr.

All-Freshman Team
Markis McDuffie, Wichita State
Obediah Church, Missouri State
Dwayne Lautier-Ogunleye, Bradley
Jarred Dixon, Missouri State
Luuk van Bree, Bradley

All-Defensive Team
Ron Baker, Wichita State, Sr.
Egidijus Mockevicius, Evansville, Sr.
Jeremy Morgan, UNI, Jr.
Fred VanVleet, Wichita State, Sr.
Paris Lee, Illinois State, Jr.

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Thoroughly outrageous to me that Wes isn't a first teamer. I understand I am very biased, but he is statically better than Van Vleet this year, and has been the best player on the court in every game he's played this season. It's similarly insane that Wes isn't on the all defensive team. Guy got robbed.

Who would you replace him with on the 1st team? Pretty impressive list of names there.

**UNIChippewa** · 03-01-2016, 03:30 PM

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I definitely would have put Wes ahead of Beane, although an argument can be made for both.

I wonder if Beane was a bit of a sentimental choice for having been at SIU for 4 years and for having helped lead the program back to respectability this season.

**Zakelsta** · 03-01-2016, 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by DownGoesKansas View Post

From what I've been hearing, I think Haldemen will start and be very good. A PG who is a sharpshooter as well will be a very nice dynamic to have.

I disagree. Jacobson seems VERY high on Juwan McCloud. And you're correct about Haldeman being a sharpshooter. I see McCloud, Lohaus, and Haldeman basically sharing 1/2 duties. They can all run the point, and can all score. However, McCloud is like 5'9". He has to be defending the other team's 1.

I agree with the starting lineup of McCloud, Lohaus, Morgan, Carlson, Koch. That's 4 guys who have all played significant minutes this season, and a freshman that our coach has been very high on.

**SteinPizza** · 03-01-2016, 03:36 PM

Re: All Conference Teams

Originally posted by UNIGrainer View Post

Who would you replace him with on the 1st team? Pretty impressive list of names there.

Agreed. Those lists are probably about as equitable as you can make them. Wes had a really good year, so not taking anything away from him.

As for the starter comments above, I hope you guys are right with what you're hearing about Haldeman. Lohaus will probably start, but he's no playmaker on his own. The guy I think who has some underrated upside is Carlson. He's got some all around athleticism and outside shooting ability that could make for a difficult matchup if he keeps progressing. He's a totally different player than Koch or Friedman.

**BCPanther** · 03-01-2016, 03:43 PM

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Remember when there was controversy as to whether or not to take Carlson over Schlatter?

Fun times. Fun times.

**DownGoesKansas** · 03-01-2016, 03:56 PM

Re: All Conference Teams

Originally posted by Zakelsta View Post

I disagree. Jacobson seems VERY high on Juwan McCloud. And you're correct about Haldeman being a sharpshooter. I see McCloud, Lohaus, and Haldeman basically sharing 1/2 duties. They can all run the point, and can all score. However, McCloud is like 5'9". He has to be defending the other team's 1.

I agree with the starting lineup of McCloud, Lohaus, Morgan, Carlson, Koch. That's 4 guys who have all played significant minutes this season, and a freshman that our coach has been very high on.

We will see. While I agree I think he's high on McCloud, that doesn't mean he's not high on Spencer who's been in the program a year already Both will play a lot regardless.

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