2016-17 mens bb begins journey

[domedays]

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Bennett holds on to the ball too much. He's never quick with a move or a pass. When he gets the ball, he pauses, and let's the defense reset. That's problematic for everyone.

That is what I saw as well. During the first few games I was amazed because he would be so slow making a move or decision but he would still end up with good things happening. A number of times I thought he had waited too long but ended up splitting the double team and got a good shot off. At that point I was calling it great patience.

Against Xavier the slow moves were getting him in trouble, and I was no longer so thrilled about his patience. He has improved a lot since last year but Xavier proved he is not yet a finished product.

Watching guys like Wes and Seth improve is part of what makes this level enjoyable for me. I suppose watching Kentucky's one and done kids is entertaining but it's great to watch these guys grow and improve. Especially while winning a bunch of games.

[sivert]

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But, when he does make his move, which is sometimes quick, he makes very high quality moves. Once he's able to think about his move before the ball comes or just move reflexively, he'll be a force.

[UNIhoops]

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Can anyone confirm if the COE game counts as regular season playing time? Still curious if Brown can redshirt. If he's not redshirting this year I worry about him riding the bench wasting a year and then transferring because he can sit out a year and redshirt some place else. Maybe come Valley season Jake can start getting him a few minutes. I just wish he could focus all year on developing and then start him for 4 years.

[claw]

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Coe is a regular season game.

Could, in theory, claim injury/illness and still redshirt this year. Anthony James played in games in 5 straight years due to mono. I don't think anyone ever confirmed he actually had mono though

[CyCarp]

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If I remember right, Tuttle could be a little slow to make his move too, the difference is the passing ability imo.

As for Brown, it is a little worrisome if he doesn't play this year. Monday he tweeted "trust the process", hopefully he does, because if he sticks with it, he'll be a big party of this team.

[PantherAlum 2008]

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I hope Jake and the coaching staff are being as upfront as possible with these new recruits about playing time. Brown saying "trust the process" on twitter kind of makes it seem like he wasn't originally expecting to not play much or wasn't expecting to get redshirted (not saying that he is redshirted). Would hate to lose him.

[OhNewby]

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I suspect we'll start going deeper into our bench in the four games that follow Xavier on Saturday.

I really think we need to get Brown, McDonnell and Dahl some playing time this year, particularly to help us next year.

I still really struggle to see why we're giving any minutes to Ted. I understand loyalty to a kid whose been in the program for 4 years, but I really think those 5 mins a game are better served in going to Dahl or even Luke.

[domedays]

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Yes, hope Brown continues to trust the process longer than Aarias Austin did last year.

I would love to see Dahl get some time and be a contributor by the end of the year.

[PantherAlum 2008]

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I suspect we'll start going deeper into our bench in the four games that follow Xavier on Saturday.

I really think we need to get Brown, McDonnell and Dahl some playing time this year, particularly to help us next year.

I still really struggle to see why we're giving any minutes to Ted. I understand loyalty to a kid whose been in the program for 4 years, but I really think those 5 mins a game are better served in going to Dahl or even Luke.

Completely agree. Hate to say it, but the minutes Ted had in the tournament did not help the team at all, in fact, I felt like it hurt their ability to get the ball in the post since they seemed to avoid throwing the ball to Ted on the offensive end. Dahl does have some work to do on his defensive game, but he has shown the ability to get offensive rebounds and score in the post. I think he will be a force the next few years as long as he can get some decent experience.

[coachdon]

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I would prefer that Brown got Rhodes' minutes. Let Haldeman be the backup point guard and have Brown play 5-8 minutes as the backup to Lohaus/Morgan. And i agree, Dahl should be playing in front of Friedman. I'm sure he's a hard working kid but Ted disappears when he's on the floor. I thought when Koch got tired against Xavier, Dahl could have given us some size and offense for a few minutes.

[sevelev711]

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Is it even possible for Brown to red-shirt at this point? I thought that the Coe College game counted as a regular game now, so he can't red-shirt this year? Obviously Dahl can't, he did last year, but I thought the whole point of Brown not playing in Orlando was because he would be the X factor against Xavier in Xavier, as it's seemed like the plan was always to get the W in Cinci instead of Orlando.

Don't get me wrong, I'd be stoked if "Trust the process" meant that he was taking the red-shirt, because (as rude/ungrateful as it sounds) we really don't need him this year. I just didn't even think he could red-shirt.

[orangetennis]

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But, when he does make his move, which is sometimes quick, he makes very high quality moves. Once he's able to think about his move before the ball comes or just move reflexively, he'll be a force.

His moves are getting quicker but he still has a low release point for a big man. This makes it possible for shorter defenders to guard him and almost impossible for him to finish against defenders his size or taller.

[GoPanthers85]

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Just looked at the latest bracket projections on espn, and they have us as an at large 10 seed and wsu earning the auto bid and a 6 seed

[Moose39]

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Just looked at the latest bracket projections on espn, and they have us as an at large 10 seed and wsu earning the auto bid and a 6 seed

I just looked, and UNI has received 1 vote in the Coaches poll.


http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings

[Gboom23]

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Brutal stretch for the Valley. 14 straight losses dating back to Wednesday. Some tough competition, lots of close calls (including buzzer beaters), and then some losses by Valley teams that are just awful (see Drake). Hopefully the Valley can pick up some wins this coming week to improve the league RPI.