Johnny Gray, Victor Williams Suspended

[06panther10]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

You THINK there's a CHANCE?

Please don't post this crap. Wait for the facts to come out. Good god.

What? This whole thread started on speculation. How is that different.

[JayJ79]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams Suspended

Here is an interesting idea..if a player is suspended and cut from the team it would be nice to see their scholarship revoked and the money they were given for school turned into a loan....just a thought

should the same thing apply to non-athletes who get kicked out of school and/or fail out?

[06panther10]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams Suspended

should the same thing apply to non-athletes who get kicked out of school and/or fail out?

If they were on a scholarship, why not?

[starmontfb]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams Suspended

i now know what the smoke coming out from under the tunnel during pregame is but seriously johnny grey i was almost positive you could play after college in arena or something but you p*ssed that away. Great job.

[JayJ79]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams Suspended

If you actually believe that you have been seriously misled. Not only does pot have serious negative effects such as physical and mental impairment, it is also a "gateway" drug. I know that term is overused and cliche, but it's true. I would love to know what these "scholarly" articles were.

And as for this war on drugs...why stop at legalizing weed? If what you say is true we should legalize ALL illicit drugs. Let's start with Meth, that has no negative effects either. How about PCP? Heroin? We can just make a ton of money selling legally to drug users and there would be NO ill effects that would come from THAT, now would there?

Alcohol is a gateway drug.
So is tobacco.
So is Red Bull.
Why stop at making weed illegal?

Like I said, bring back prohibition. It would cut down the number of drunk drivers.
And the whole smoking issue could be solved by making all smoking illegal.

[JayJ79]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

F that, they WERE pseudo-role modles, citizens and ambassadors of the University of Iowa!

The ambassadors of the University of Iowa certainly do have plenty of legal problems. But these two were NOT hawkeye ambassadors.

[UNIChippewa]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams Suspended

Man, that is a sad, sad picture of Johnny Grey being led away like that....if guilty, he definitely screwed up and will pay the consequences, but I hope that he learns from this. If he doesn't, than I can feel no pity for him.

Sorry, Max, its a fact! Can't handle the truth? Load a bowl with some rose bud and crawl behind the steps in mom & dad's basement and schhhhmoke a little dope......its what mature people do.

I'm curious Twin Cities Panther....are you one of those angry right-wingers who flies into a frenzied rage anytime the driver in front of you turns on their left-hand turn signal? I must admit I do get that impression from you.

[MediaPanther]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams Suspended

Alcohol is a gateway drug.
So is tobacco.
So is Red Bull.
Why stop at making weed illegal?

Like I said, bring back prohibition. It would cut down the number of drunk drivers.
And the whole smoking issue could be solved by making all smoking illegal.

Prohibition was a horrible idea and ended up being a complete disaster.

[Back2BackCats]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams Suspended

Here is an interesting idea..if a player is suspended and cut from the team it would be nice to see their scholarship revoked and the money they were given for school turned into a loan....just a thought

On the other hand then if a scholarship student completes 4 years of college with out getting into trouble and does not receive a degree should they be able to sue the university. Its the school that does the recruiting and makes all of the promises. Schools are offering 8th graders scholarships, what do we know about someone's character at that age. The whole process involves risk, some workout and some don't, sadly the latter is becoming more prevalent.

[JayJ79]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams Suspended

Prohibition was a horrible idea and ended up being a complete disaster.

only because people refused to obey the law.

[Back2BackCats]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

F that, they WERE pseudo-role modles, citizens and ambassadors of the University of Iowa!

They accepted the scholarship and with that comes responsibility but we made them into role models and ambassadors. They didn't ask us to have our kids idolize them. Chances are some, not all, brought this character with them. As I stated earlier there is risk in recruiting and I think sometimes when you are trying to build a program sometimes you take chances. That may not be the case in this instance, but I think it is a fine line.

[Twin Cities Panther]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

The ambassadors of the University of Iowa certainly do have plenty of legal problems. But these two were NOT hawkeye ambassadors.

Meant to type University of Northern Iowa and State of Iowa, but smoked too much pot tonight so my brain didn't get the message to my fingers.......

[UNI Prof]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams Suspended

I can't believe other players were mentioned in this thread. Shouldn't we wait to produce names until official reports get released?

[Winder/aka Dan Holmes]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams, Darrell Lloyd, and De'Veon Harris Suspended

Learned today during the playoffs and our whole family feels ill about this.

[Twin Cities Panther]

Re: Johnny Gray, Victor Williams Suspended

Man, that is a sad, sad picture of Johnny Grey being led away like that....if guilty, he definitely screwed up and will pay the consequences, but I hope that he learns from this. If he doesn't, than I can feel no pity for him.

Sorry, Max, its a fact! Can't handle the truth? Load a bowl with some rose bud and crawl behind the steps in mom & dad's basement and schhhhmoke a little dope......its what mature people do.

I'm curious Twin Cities Panther....are you one of those angry right-wingers who flies into a frenzied rage anytime the driver in front of you turns on their left-hand turn signal? I must admit I do get that impression from you.

Hallucinations are hell, huh?