Embarassing

[UNI92]

Re: Embarassing

You can't win games without a qb that can pass

with Carlos and the stud coming in uni doesn't need a run only qb

defense was awesome

Davis should have played the bulk of the second half

next year looks like a mess for next year on offense

lol 63 yards passing

the passes in the 2nd qrtr looked like a high school kid chucking prayers

Who is the stud coming in at RB? Dawson?

[pantherfansince92]

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I'm looking forward to seeing RB Andre Dawson and WR David Johnson next year. These were two of our star recruits this last year and I believe both redshirted. Dawson will give us a little more size at RB while Johnson (6'3") will be one of our tallest receivers.

[Spathicle]

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So glad Halgren is done. The kid fold under pressure every time.
Iowa game?
Missed three today?
Missed 2 or 3 to open the season against ndsu...
How many more games could we have won if we had wingert rather than him?

Everyone get in my time machine, we're going back to 2005!!!

[Born-a-Panther]

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Everyone get in my time machine, we're going back to 2005!!!

I need to not dwell on the past, but man I wish we could have a lot of those guys back. Heideman, Varner, Sanders, Hunter, Goodwin, Wingert, Stensrud, Surrency, Dokes... etc. etc. etc.

[Pantherpower]

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Embarrassing indeed, JC. The MVFC and the Panthers are the laughing stock of FCS. Rather than sending a message to the playoff selection committee that they were underestimating our conference champion, we validated that we are nothing more than a sacrificial lamb.

Our offense today was morbidly unimaginative. It was porridge--it was stale--it was all too predictable and has become the elephant in the room, along with atrocious clock management. Losing nearly 45 seconds near the end of the first half when we had Lehigh pinned deep by not using a time out? USING a time out near the end of the game only to decide you're going to kick (and miss for the third freaking time) a field goal?

Embarrassing indeed.....

[Panther/Statesman]

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This is the 2nd successive year UNI has collapsed at the end of the season, this year we already had the playoffs made so we staggered into the first round.

I've heard talk that Coach Farley has a my way or the highway attitude. You can get away with that if you are consistently winning/improving. We lost a national title due to bad coaching strategy, and again this year we've seen great talent wasted.

The most galling detail from today is the refusal to either tailor the offense to Rennie's abilities or give someone else a legitimate shot at QB.

You get beat by an equal/superior team, so be it. But to lose when you clearly have the talent to win is sickening. It will be a while getting over these last two games.

[06panther10]

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I've heard talk that Coach Farley has a my way or the highway attitude.

Not exactly a big revelation there.

[Panther-Sheik]

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Anybody that has watched Rennie at all should have notices he can NOT pass. He has ZERO arm strength. There is a reason there are no slant patterns or out patterns. Arm strength is not how far you can throw the ball, it is about the velocity. To throw the type of patterns everybody has clamored for on this board, Rennie doe not have the ability to do. Give theoffensive staff credit for understanding that. One other thing, yes there have been several dropped passes this, certainly the receivers have some responsibility on that but it is a much harder to catchwhen the ball comes in without ant zip on it.

Remember that Davis has had the pick 6's on out patterns this year...and could have had at least 2 more. It isn't the coaches "recognizing" anything. Bad play calling, PERIOD!

[Panther-Sheik]

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This is the 2nd successive year UNI has collapsed at the end of the season, this year we already had the playoffs made so we staggered into the first round.

I've heard talk that Coach Farley has a my way or the highway attitude. You can get away with that if you are consistently winning/improving. We lost a national title due to bad coaching strategy, and again this year we've seen great talent wasted.

The most galling detail from today is the refusal to either tailor the offense to Rennie's abilities or give someone else a legitimate shot at QB.

You get beat by an equal/superior team, so be it. But to lose when you clearly have the talent to win is sickening. It will be a while getting over these last two games.

You nailed it. Salmon insisting on Rennie being a dropback passer is like insisting that the fat kid be a swimsuit model. Just gross and stupid! I would bet dollars to donuts the App St O-coord could have figured out how to capitalize on all of Rennie's God given abilities! Gross!

[D Panther]

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Remember that Davis has had the pick 6's on out patterns this year...and could have had at least 2 more. It isn't the coaches "recognizing" anything. Bad play calling, PERIOD

We he did, however the offense was changed to fit Rennie. If he would have been able to run the offense he spent the last 3 years in the result may have been diiferent. Also put some of this on the coaching staff. When Davis was sent in it was to pass period. He was set up to fail so the staff could say see we told you so. We will never know if he has the ability to play or not with the way he was handled.

[Panther-Sheik]

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Worst, most embarrassing loss in modern (1990+) UNI history!!

[Panther-Sheik]

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Remember that Davis has had the pick 6's on out patterns this year...and could have had at least 2 more. It isn't the coaches "recognizing" anything. Bad play calling, PERIOD

We he did, however the offense was changed to fit Rennie. If he would have been able to run the offense he spent the last 3 years in the result may have been diiferent. Also put some of this on the coaching staff. When Davis was sent in it was to pass period. He was set up to fail so the staff could say see we told you so. We will never know if he has the ability to play or not with the way he was handled.

I'm not a Davis "hater" at all. Unfortunately I think Davis would have done no better than Rennie this year because our coaches don't coach to out talent but rather try to fit our talent into their pre-determined box. They made a "scheme" and required our talent to either fit it or fail. Problem is that only Eric Sanders has been fit for the scheme. As we saw at the end of the game, Davis was put into no better situation than Rennie. No flow to our play calls, one play doesn't set up another and our players' talents are not maximized. And this has been a consistent theme and one which I don't expect to change with this staff.

[1988]

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I'm not a Davis "hater" at all. Unfortunately I think Davis would have done no better than Rennie this year because our coaches don't coach to out talent but rather try to fit our talent into their pre-determined box. They made a "scheme" and required our talent to either fit it or fail. Problem is that only Eric Sanders has been fit for the scheme. As we saw at the end of the game, Davis was put into no better situation than Rennie. No flow to our play calls, one play doesn't set up another and our players' talents are not maximized. And this has been a consistent theme and one which I don't expect to change with this staff.

They don't know how to coach this type of quarterback. I bet if you could get a copy the OC's playbook it is the exact same one he had his first year. He has no clue how to coach a quarterback like Rennie. Here is what it sounds like in his head when he is calling the next play "Well it says here that Jay Johnson is supposed too...." Same book I guarantee.

[Newsbreaker]

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This might have been the worst loss I can ever remember. Bad in every facet, but the fg call late when we need a touchdown was the worst of the bunch. That isn't even giving the team a chance to win.

This staff needs to seriously reevaluate how they approach playoff games.

[Panther93]

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Just went back to look at the stats from the game. I agree with folks here, our defense couldn't have done much more in the game.

Lehigh only had the ball for 25 and a half minutes.
They took advantage of almost every chance they had, and by my count they only had 3.

Missed FG in first half
Excellent catch and missed tackle turned upfield and scored.
One play quick hit after the only turnover they could really take advantage of.
Lehigh ran ZERO plays from scrimmage inside our 25. The FG miss was from the 24.

Our defense kept them off a quarter of the field the entire game!!!!

Our offense: Ran SEVENTEEN plays from inside Lehigh's 30. Three trips to the red zone and got a whopping 7 points.

We start twice inside the 40 and get zero points.

It's all about taking advantage of what you have. One team did and one team didn't and that's to their credit and our demise.

SIGH.