Embarassing

[06panther10]

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What would have been the problem with a 4PM kick like all other games? Like it would matter that there are 2,000 ppl at the Volleyball game at the same time.

Because that is disrespectful to what is a fantastic volleyball program.

We had everything scheduled so that nothing was going on at the same time, and fans could attend every event if they wanted to.

Blaming a noon kick for our ****ty play, and our ****ty attendance is lame.

[96' Alum]

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We do not lose to Lehigh yesterday if there are 13,000 people in the dome. I bet our guys got real jacked up when they ran out of the tunnel 4 hours after their alarm went off only to see 1,500 people sitting on the East side of the stadium. This was poor planning, and thats on Dannen, there are many things to blame this game on, Dannen is not "to blame" but he played a part in the debacle yesterday. If you think a noon kickoff had nothing to do with performance / attendence you know nothing about football. How many games kicked off this year before 2:00PM? 2. WIU, and Lehigh. Hmmm?

You are right the kickoff time was terrible. I agree with you on the jeg.

My argument was that saying fire Dannen was a pretty silly statement.

There were things that were already set. We aren't going to tell the MVC that we are going to change the time for the volleyball finals. We can't tell a basketball opponent that we need to change the start time, especially a week before the game.

The real problem is that the ad was looking (hoping) for a bye the first week of the playoffs. The "performance" at Western Illinois pretty much forced a change of plans. That can't be blamed on the AD.

[ubuntuCAT]

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Because that is disrespectful to what is a fantastic volleyball program.

We had everything scheduled so that nothing was going on at the same time, and fans could attend every event if they wanted to.

Blaming a noon kick for our ****ty play, and our ****ty attendance is lame.

First of all I'm not blaming our ****ty play on the game time.

How the hell would that be disrespectful to the Volleyball program???? quite frankly, who cares if it was. Could be the best UNI volleyball team in history and they just won the conference tournament championship AT HOME in front of 2k fans.

The entire weekend should have revolved around what was best for maximizing attendance for football. Basketball would be 2nd.

Basketball is the over all money maker at UNI but no single event can touch Football. Yesterdays attendance was the lowest I can remember in many years.... Even worse than that Thursday ESPNU game. And yet the ticket revenue was still probably higher than any other single non-football athletic event.

[panthersare#1]

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I have to admit that I was hoping for a bye week, but when the panthers destroyed themselves at Western, I had hoped they would bounce back from that loss like they did earlier this season against SFA, IA St, and Illinois St.
I was hopelessly disappointed in the team yesterday. Something has to change, because we are clearly a better team than that. Yesterday's performance should never be repeated. Granted the defense did get some stops, but they kept letting the Lehigh qb get the plays he wanted. He became predictable and they couldn't stop it. The offense was no help at all. I mean almost every first down was a handoff to Anderson. That was predictable and no wonder their defense was able to shut him down. It was the same plays over and over again. I have read some of the posts on here, and I have to say I really don't like some of these people saying that Davis was horrible. Yes he shouldn't have had that sack on 3rd down, but considering that it was the only series he was in the whole game, nothing was going to come of it. The coaching staff should have changed the qb situation when it became apparent Rennie wasn't getting the plays. That's when another qb should have come into the game to try. Maybe fresh blood might have helped. I'm not saying that it should have been Davis, but there are other back-up qbs.
I have never wanted to leave a UNI game at the Dome early. I usually stay to the bitter end, but I left mid way through the 4th quarter. I couldn't stand to watch a farce of a game anymore. Keeping Rennie in after he proved time after time that he couldn't accomplish anything is on the coaching staff.
Another thing that's on the coaching staff is going for a fg when a td was necessary at that time. There was no guarantee that if we got the ball back, we would be able to score. Why put the faith in a bad fg kicker who missed two previous fg when we should have gone for it on 4th down.
One thing has to come from this year. A coaching staff shakeup is necessary. We have the talent, so why should we be losing these games? These losses just show that we are incompent and that we had no right to be the MVFC champs. Then we have to wonder why people are not coming to the games, instead choosing to support IA St, or IA. I know this team is better than they have shown, but things cannot be done with the current staff. The offensive staff needs new blood.
I hope things change in the off season and that the panthers come back raring to go. There's no reason not to hope for a spectular season. I will be watching and hoping things will change for the better. For now we can focus on the VB team and the BB teams. Here's hoping they have a better season than the FB team did.

[DomeRanger Posse]

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Some people have asked this in their posts, but I want to throw this out there. Is Mark Farley still the man for the job in Cedar Falls? No personal animosity, not trying to push anything one way or the other, just asking the question. The last decade of Panther football has seen some amazing highs, but most of those came five years ago, and we're backsliding now to where we sit now, what some have already described as an all-time low. Can Farley shake up the coaching staff and make UNI a contender again in the near future, or do we look to Farley as the source of the problem?

[panthersare#1]

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I think now is the time that Farley should be thinking about shaking things up in his staff. I think that if he doesn't he may not be here in a few years. I know he is a great coach, one of the best UNI has had in a while, but if things don't change soon, his job may be on the line.

[9YRPLAN]

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football loses money. basketball makes money.

[DomeRanger Posse]

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Basketball is something to watch while you're waiting for spring ball.

[jegbomb52]

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football loses money. basketball makes money.

Football costs more money and therefore loses money. Basketball operates in the black because they have 4 coaches and 12 scholarships (or something like that). As far as football games are concerned home football games are an opportunity to bring in hundreds of thousands for the University. No TV for either game, you should have moved the basketball game. It happens frequently, a lot more than people think. If ESPNU would have called an offered us $5,000 to move the tip noon we would have done it with a weeks advanced notice. So why not do it to optimize football revenues? If that was a 7:00PM kick there would have been double the amount of people there. Thats $125,000 if my math is correct.

[ubuntuCAT]

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football loses money. basketball makes money.

yes... but ONE basketball game doesn't come close to the revenue from ONE football game and that is the point here.

[06panther10]

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Football costs more money and therefore loses money. Basketball operates in the black because they have 4 coaches and 12 scholarships (or something like that). As far as football games are concerned home football games are an opportunity to bring in hundreds of thousands for the University. No TV for either game, you should have moved the basketball game. It happens frequently, a lot more than people think. If ESPNU would have called an offered us $5,000 to move the tip noon we would have done it with a weeks advanced notice. So why not do it to optimize football revenues? If that was a 7:00PM kick there would have been double the amount of people there. Thats $125,000 if my math is correct.

We had a 10-2 team that played Maine on Thanksgiving weekend two years ago that kicked off at 4 PM, and there was like 8K people there. So, maybe it would have brought a few more people, but not many.

And it is not easy to just move a basketball game time in that short amount of time. Why should it be the North Dakota basketball team's problem that we have a home football game all the sudden? They have long booked travel/hotel plans that would need to be changed.

[jegbomb52]

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We had a 10-2 team that played Maine on Thanksgiving weekend two years ago that kicked off at 4 PM, and there was like 8K people there. So, maybe it would have brought a few more people, but not many.

And it is not easy to just move a basketball game time in that short amount of time. Why should it be the North Dakota basketball team's problem that we have a home football game all the sudden? They have long booked travel/hotel plans that would need to be changed.

Ya, its pretty tough to move a basketball game time up to 11:00AM when the team you are playing has been in Cedar Falls since 3:00PM the day before and has their own charter bus sitting outside the court ready to drive them home when they are done. Your statement makes no sense what so ever. It would have been easy to do on Thursday, let alone Monday morning at the start of business.

[ubuntuCAT]

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Or just play the damn football game at 5 and leave the BBall game alone.

[06panther10]

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Ya, its pretty tough to move a basketball game time up to 11:00AM when the team you are playing has been in Cedar Falls since 3:00PM the day before and has their own charter bus sitting outside the court ready to drive them home when they are done. Your statement makes no sense what so ever. It would have been easy to do on Thursday, let alone Monday morning at the start of business.

The volleyball tournament was set up in the Mcleod. They couldn't move the game to earlier in the day.

Its not as easy as you may think. They is a lot of setup required for a lot of different people. (facilities, media, locker rooms, etc.) The V-ball teams, I'm sure, probably have sort of a "shoot around" a few hours before games, like basketball teams do.

[BisoninNWMN]

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Bison had a 6 pm start time and alittle over 12K people coming. Not too bad for the holiday weekend.

IMO, if UNI officials had a later start time there would have been a bigger crowd.