Farley Can't Close Out When It Counts

[tjamz]

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What was SOOO bad about that post? What was I wrong about?

I don't particularly LIKE UNI Football, but I respect them and I know a damn good team when I see one. I saw one on Saturday. I like good competition so therefore I'd love to see UNI vs NDSU in the National Championship game. If there was a way that UNI could lose every game from here on out and still make the national championship game that would be even better

[JayJ79]

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stay #2 in the polls so we don't end up in the same bracket. Until we meet again, good luck and have a great season.

the polls don't necessarily dictate the playoff seeding. Even if NDSU and UNI finished 1 and 2 in the polls, they'd probably put Towson at 2 just to have some east coast presence.

But there is still alot of football to be played.

[Twin Cities Panther]

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Seems you have a fan! Was he asking for a date earlier?

I believe he was, but I'm utterly and totally committed to lake's wife and our internet stalker role plays that usually end with us being evicted from Fran's Motel 6 in Fargo.

[Born-a-Panther]

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This is my first post on here as I am a Bison fan. I wanted to start off by saying that I agree with everything you just said. And before I forget to say it later in this post I want to start by saying how truly heartbreaking it was to see Farley go out with the injury. Never want to see anyone go out on the stretcher (or even with a cramp for that matter).

As a Bison fan we have had our share of heartbreaker games as well the past few seasons (see YSU and ISU the past two years) but here is what NEEDS to happen from your team and fan base:

Team: Learn from the mistakes that were made and find a way to get better. You scared the living SH!T out of a very good NDSU football team, there is SO MUCH to build on from that.

Fans: Support your team. They just lost a game they could have and maybe should have won. They need your support now as much as ever. Go back to the UNI Dome for the next game, get loud, let them know how much they are appreciated. Heck cheer a little for me even, I know that our rivalry is intense and getting more so by the day, but I'd love nothing more than the MVFC being the only teams in the championship game come January.... of course I want to win that game if/when it happens, but I'd still like to play you guys there again. So stay out there, keep kicking ass and stay #2 in the polls so we don't end up in the same bracket. Until we meet again, good luck and have a great season.

I appreciate this post. It's probably the nicest one we've ever seen out of a Bison fan. Thanks for taking the time.

[9YRPLAN]

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Why do you feel the need to tell us what you were doing this weekend? We don't care. You didn't post because the Hawkeye's got smoked. Be honest.

Uh, because your brother asked?

[Mudrafan]

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Mudra was a darn good football coach who laid the foundation for what the program is today. When he was pushed aside because people thought he wasn't good enough to get them over the top, UNI ended up with Earle Bruce. The 1988 season was a 5-6 train wreck for a team that was probably talented enough to challenge for an NC.

Wow. Mudra was not fired. In fact, they won the Gateway at 6-0, & Dr Victory was 1/2 yard from being in the national title game. They were beaten in Louisiana by future NFL QB Stan Humphries 44-42 in a hell of a game. It was one of the best UNI football teams they have ever had. Mudra retired after that game.

[01PantherFan]

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Reading some of the post about how it was bad coaching is a joke and how it was the coaching at the end was the reason for the loss, guess they called great plays all the way till the end then just gave up ?, I have seen several new plays this year alone, do people really think the coaches just say well lets just call anything ? you can have the best possible play called but it still depends on the players executing and its not like the NDSU defense didnt have a little part in the whole matter, Sawyer was under heavy pressure period. Yes the loss hurt because it was so close and in the Panthers grasp right to the very end but I saw something else as well, 1. DJ put about a 110 more yards on the Bison over Zenner who just happens to be one of the best rb's in the country by stats ( still say DJ is the best ) 2. Kollmorgon didnt have one of his best games. 3 Our defense is light years better then last year. 4. the pass interference call at the end was bad and really helped NDSU with all that said UNI has gone from a 5-6 team last year to one of the best in the country, yea the loss hurts but this year is far from over ! Go Panthers !!

[SteinPizza]

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Wow. Mudra was not fired. In fact, they won the Gateway at 6-0, & Dr Victory was 1/2 yard from being in the national title game. They were beaten in Louisiana by future NFL QB Stan Humphries 44-42 in a hell of a game. It was one of the best UNI football teams they have ever had. Mudra retired after that game.

Sorry to digress from the mutual bash session, but didn't Stan Humphries set a single game TD pass record in that contest? I remember Dukie threw a bunch for us in that game too, but I think Humphries set some kind of record (or at least a record at the time). I could go look it up, but I'm too busy reading numerous mutual insults being slung throughout multiple threads

[jegbomb52]

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Reading some of the post about how it was bad coaching is a joke and how it was the coaching at the end was the reason for the loss, guess they called great plays all the way till the end then just gave up ?, I have seen several new plays this year alone, do people really think the coaches just say well lets just call anything ? you can have the best possible play called but it still depends on the players executing and its not like the NDSU defense didnt have a little part in the whole matter, Sawyer was under heavy pressure period. Yes the loss hurt because it was so close and in the Panthers grasp right to the very end but I saw something else as well, 1. DJ put about a 110 more yards on the Bison over Zenner who just happens to be one of the best rb's in the country by stats ( still say DJ is the best ) 2. Kollmorgon didnt have one of his best games. 3 Our defense is light years better then last year. 4. the pass interference call at the end was bad and really helped NDSU with all that said UNI has gone from a 5-6 team last year to one of the best in the country, yea the loss hurts but this year is far from over ! Go Panthers !!

you don't call fumbles on kickoffs, you call the plays that put the ball in the end zone after you get those fumbles. Kicking field goals when we should be putting the ball in the end zone is an issue. You don't call two broken tackles and an 85 yard run for a td. Our defensive play calling in the fourth quarter is different than in the first three when we have a lead. When we are in this defense teams pick us apart running the ball and throwing it over the middle and then getting yac (North Dakota, Western Illinois, Deleware)

What our coaching staff excels at is developing players to cause fumbles, kick field goals, break tackles, and run fast. This staff always has. Thats why we win 80% of our football games in this regime. We are better than 80% of the teams we play. We are the same as 10% of the teams we play, and worse than 10% that is where we struggle to get W's. Beating the teams that maybe we should, and maybe we shouldn't. (NDSU, Richmond, App State, Southern Illinois)

Your right about one thing. This year is far from over. We have three hard games left this year as far as i'm concerned against teams we should beat (SIU at home, SDSU on the road, and believe it or not MSU on the road). If we don't run the table it won't be because were not the best team on the field. Its okay for fans to question coaches. Thats a sign that there is interest in the programs. 20 years ago we didn't have fans that cared this much. I'm so glad that we do. Every fan base must have them, more times that not there can be great discussion brought up about it.

[95UNIGRAD]

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One thing that often gets lost in these discussions (play calling, etc.), and even in pre-game smack talk, is that there is another team lining up across from your favorite team that is also trying to do everything they can to stop you. Sometimes the chess match is successful, sometimes it's not. Sometimes you get up by 13 in the 4th qtr., sometimes you blow that lead and lose by 1.

It's why I have such a problem with people who piss and moan too much after a loss (especially a hard one) or people who talk too much smack based on what a team's done previously, how they look on paper, etc. There is no accounting for what's going to happen during a game - a great play call can turn into an interception if a guy lets the ball go through his hands, or a busted play can be a TD because the defense is caught off guard by something awkward.

Moral of the story: We're either the best or second best team in the country, based on what we saw Saturday. If we get healthy, I lean toward the former.

[Luther_Heggs]

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Wow. Mudra was not fired. In fact, they won the Gateway at 6-0, & Dr Victory was 1/2 yard from being in the national title game. They were beaten in Louisiana by future NFL QB Stan Humphries 44-42 in a hell of a game. It was one of the best UNI football teams they have ever had. Mudra retired after that game.

Yes, Coach Mudra was not "pushed aside" (as a previous person posted). Coach Mudra was upfront that he took the job to turn around the program and then hand it over. It was never going to be long term. I still remember reading Mudra's writeup in the Northern Iowan right after he was hired. He wrote about changing the attitude of Northen Iowa football. A lot of stuff like UNI should expect to win games instead of losing games. I thought he was just full of school spirit crap and dismissed him entirely. Needless to say, I may have been incorrect!

[UNI88]

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Wow. Mudra was not fired. In fact, they won the Gateway at 6-0, & Dr Victory was 1/2 yard from being in the national title game. They were beaten in Louisiana by future NFL QB Stan Humphries 44-42 in a hell of a game. It was one of the best UNI football teams they have ever had. Mudra retired after that game.

I did not say that Mudra was fired. It was my perception at the time that he was quietly pushed to the side and didn't make a stink about it. You and others can disagree and say that he retired willingly and you're entitled to your opinion just as I'm entitled to mine. There were a number of people who wondered if he was the right guy to get UNI over the hump after losing in the semi's in 1985 and 1987. A lot of people thought Earle Bruce would be that guy and the results show that he wasn't. Moral of the story - be careful what you wish for, it might not turn out how you think it will.

[GonzoCat]

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I suppose it's possible, but I don't remember anyone wondering if Mudra could get us over the hump. Before he came here UNI never even dreamed of being able to see the hump from where we were. He is completely responsible for all the success that UNI has enjoyed from his time forward, for taking us from nowhere to a perennial national contender. If anyone wanted him gone they are about 10X dumber than the people that wanted Tom Davis gone at Iowa.

[TennBison]

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you guys are surprised that the Iowa fans could care less that we lost today? really? come on guys. You should be past this. They could care less about UNI.

Don't celebrate a moral victory, we lost, choked, coughed it up. Deal with it. End score great, with 10 min left to lose it was unacceptable. Been happening for over a decade.

Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. The players on the field deserved to win this game. Something must change from an offensive play calling stand point.

7 > 3. NDSU wins, plain and simple.

Fixed it for you.

[jegbomb52]

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Fixed it for you.

thank you, what a poor oversight on my part. Thats what happens when you have 3 drinks on your tab watching the game and come home to post on the message board...

(3 Buckets of beer at Benchwarmers