I don't know what you guys are complaining about, we're getting paid 600k to go win a tune up game against some no-name scrubs, that's a heck of a deal.
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MVFC is different than the MVCOriginally posted by UNIpanther99 View PostIt would not surprise me at all if we were to beat St. Thomas, Nebraska and Hawaii, and then start like 1-5 in the MVC.
but anyway, there are several teams in the MVFC that will objectively have better teams than Nebraska and Hawaii (unless things change by 2024). Now whether or not UNI is scheduled to play those teams in their first 6 conference games, I dunno.
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It's not a matter of "are they winnable games." The problem is we only have at most 5 home games, on top of the fact that is a BRUTAL travel schedule (bad things happen when UNI travels to Hawaii, it's just science), and the last time we played multiple FBS teams in one season we were competitive in both, but it ended up being a bad year because the roster was decimated by injuries.
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It's fine. We've got Division I recovery facilities now.Originally posted by Wxcpanther View PostIt's not a matter of "are they winnable games." The problem is we only have at most 5 home games, on top of the fact that is a BRUTAL travel schedule (bad things happen when UNI travels to Hawaii, it's just science), and the last time we played multiple FBS teams in one season we were competitive in both, but it ended up being a bad year because the roster was decimated by injuries.
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injuries only happen when playing against FBS opponents?Originally posted by Wxcpanther View PostIt's not a matter of "are they winnable games." The problem is we only have at most 5 home games, on top of the fact that is a BRUTAL travel schedule (bad things happen when UNI travels to Hawaii, it's just science), and the last time we played multiple FBS teams in one season we were competitive in both, but it ended up being a bad year because the roster was decimated by injuries.
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Only?Originally posted by vbfan19 View Postinjuries only happen when playing against FBS opponents?
No.
Do studies show higher rates of injury from FBS/FCS games? 100%. Less so when the two teams are more evenly matched, but yes.
No that doesn't just mean ACLs, or things that end seasons. It's the fact that games are significantly more physical and demanding for the entirety of the 60 minutes. The recovery required from that level of game (or SDSU and NDSU in conference play) is well documented. There are athletic trainers across the country that have given talks on this, and participated in the studies that looked at injury rate based on level of competition, day of the week game played, rest since last game, time of game, etc. It's all been studied and being studied.
The physical toll going Nebraska, traveling over 4000 miles to play a game that will kick at probably 10 or 11 pm local time, and then over 4000 miles back in the matter of 7 days will absolutely have an impact on the season of an FCS program that then has to go into conference play and will face 6 ranked FCS teams in conference play in the most physically demanding FCS conference in the nation.
In 21 days the players will log damn near 10,000 miles in travel, with I would guess a minimum of 9 of those days being travel days, play 3 games, and somehow get quality practice time, film time, game plan time, AND classwork done.
Yeah, that won't have any kind of physical toll on the body even if there was a magic pill where injuries, regardless of size, didn't happen in football.
Oh and then on either side of that 3 week stretch if a fourth football game, that I'm not convinced isn't going to require more travel.
Stress and wear injuries are VERY real in athletes. More often is not an ACL or broken leg that causes games to be missed. It's muscles hitting a stress and fatigue point of failure where the body just can't go anymore.
That's with top notch training facilities. When you look at our....uh....40 year old tables in a what used to be a utility closet I'm sure everything will go just perfectly. We'll got 3-0 in those games. Not a single player will even get a bruise.
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I realize this might be difficult for you, but don't be ignorant. You know that's not what I was saying. It is objectively more likely for our team to have injuries against FBS opponents due to first them in general having better strength and conditioning facilities and having significantly more people on the roster due to the extra scholarships.Originally posted by vbfan19 View Postinjuries only happen when playing against FBS opponents?
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We're probably fine. We'll just schedule it so the 70 year old hip replacement patients aren't in the 20 year old recovery pools that day.Originally posted by clenz View Post
Only?
No.
Do studies show higher rates of injury from FBS/FCS games? 100%. Less so when the two teams are more evenly matched, but yes.
No that doesn't just mean ACLs, or things that end seasons. It's the fact that games are significantly more physical and demanding for the entirety of the 60 minutes. The recovery required from that level of game (or SDSU and NDSU in conference play) is well documented. There are athletic trainers across the country that have given talks on this, and participated in the studies that looked at injury rate based on level of competition, day of the week game played, rest since last game, time of game, etc. It's all been studied and being studied.
The physical toll going Nebraska, traveling over 4000 miles to play a game that will kick at probably 10 or 11 pm local time, and then over 4000 miles back in the matter of 7 days will absolutely have an impact on the season of an FCS program that then has to go into conference play and will face 6 ranked FCS teams in conference play in the most physically demanding FCS conference in the nation.
In 21 days the players will log damn near 10,000 miles in travel, with I would guess a minimum of 9 of those days being travel days, play 3 games, and somehow get quality practice time, film time, game plan time, AND classwork done.
Yeah, that won't have any kind of physical toll on the body even if there was a magic pill where injuries, regardless of size, didn't happen in football.
Oh and then on either side of that 3 week stretch if a fourth football game, that I'm not convinced isn't going to require more travel.
Stress and wear injuries are VERY real in athletes. More often is not an ACL or broken leg that causes games to be missed. It's muscles hitting a stress and fatigue point of failure where the body just can't go anymore.
That's with top notch training facilities. When you look at our....uh....40 year old tables in a what used to be a utility closet I'm sure everything will go just perfectly. We'll got 3-0 in those games. Not a single player will even get a bruise.
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I’m sure there is a CAA team looking for a home OOC game. I’m sure a trip from Hawaii to Rhode Island or William and Mary would be a walk in the park to make happen.Originally posted by BrockLesnar View PostOh what the Hell let's just stay out West skip the MVFC and play the PAC 12 all for free...
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Let's not allow players to take exams or go to class anymore. Just live out of hotels until Christmas break.Originally posted by clenz View Post
I’m sure there is a CAA team looking for a home OOC game. I’m sure a trip from Hawaii to Rhode Island or William and Mary would be a walk in the park to make happen.
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When does/has MVFC officially announce the conference schedule for '24?
I see that USD has their '24 schedule out on their site. I did find a schedule for UNI is a third-party site (https://fbschedules.com/2024-norther...ball-schedule/) but not sure if the Valley schedule is set yet. Thanks."Well, that escalated quickly."
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