UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

[Newt99]

Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

I would be 100% against a move to FBS. We are no better suited for the move than any of the list of teams who have made the jump only to find wins fewer and further between.



Ask WKU, who unlike us had a national championship in their pocket, how that went.

The ONLY team to make the jump and do well is Boise State. Hell, even Marshall is almost entirely irrelevant at that level, and they were UNI football on 'roids when playing at the I-AA level.

A move to FBS would be the end of everything good about UNI football which is precisely why the possibility is no more than message board fun. It's never going to happen.

This times a million

Add another million from me. Great post Newsy.

Besides all of that, I much prefer the FCS playoff format to those stupid end-of-season exhibition games that every FBS team with six or more wins get to play in every year. We're just fine where we are. If we could add a couple more quality teams to the MVC and/or MVFC in all of this I'd be very happy, but I don't want UNI going anywhere.

[Newsbreaker]

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Can someone recount for me what the consultants report said? I seem to remember that it said that a move wouldn't be financially crippling, but it wasn't a financial solution nor was it comparatively better than our current FCS standing.

[Panther789]

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That's right. These additions keep the "western" division at the hands of tOSU, PSU, ND and Michigan. The East will be a battle between Nebraska, Wisconsin and Iowa.

I know nobody around here will enjoy it, but the Nebraska/Iowa rivalry may become one of the premiere rivalries in the midwest.

The more I read about this, the less certain I am that this is going to be split perfectly into East and West divisions. An article I found online:

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2010/06/13/still-plenty-of-questions-to-answer.html?sid=101

OSU Athletic Director Gene Smith hints that geographical divisions do not have to happen, and the primary concern will be competitive balance.

[doolittledog]

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That is crazy. Competitive balance shifts every few years. Nebraska and K State were the powers of the Big 12 when it started up. You would have to shift division line-ups every few years to keep things competitively balanced and then you would have schools fighting each other politically to make things advantagious to their school. It would be caotic at best.

[Panther789]

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Chip Brown, the guy who has broken much of the news regarding the Big XII, now suggests Texas may want to stay put in a 10 team conference. Perhaps a bit of hope for ISU afterall.

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1094038

[Scrambler]

Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

Chip Brown, the guy who has broken much of the news regarding the Big XII, now suggests Texas may want to stay put in a 10 team conference. Perhaps a bit of hope for ISU afterall.

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1094038

Yeah the Big 12 is talking now that with only 10 teams they each would make 15-17 million after the new contract next year... Add that the 20 million the big 12 can pay right now due to CU and Neb. jumping ship.... This new conference shake up might actually work out for the better for ISU. Hope the Big 12/10 stays as a conference.

[TH1974]

Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

Chip Brown, the guy who has broken much of the news regarding the Big XII, now suggests Texas may want to stay put in a 10 team conference. Perhaps a bit of hope for ISU afterall.

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1094038

The departure of Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to the Pac-10 is imminent, four sources within the Big 12 Conference said Monday.

One source said Dan Beebe's last-minute plan to save the conference has "zero" chance to succeed. Another source said it is "very unlikely" to succeed.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5284375&campaign=rss&source=twitter&ex_cid=Twitter_espn_5284375

[Scrambler]

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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/...r_espn_5284375

I don't think anyone knows what is going on...this is becoming comical.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2010/06/texas-expected-to-commit-to-big-12-with-hope-of-saving-conference/1

[Newsbreaker]

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That is crazy. Competitive balance shifts every few years. Nebraska and K State were the powers of the Big 12 when it started up. You would have to shift division line-ups every few years to keep things competitively balanced and then you would have schools fighting each other politically to make things advantagious to their school. It would be caotic at best.

That is right. The past few years, it's the "west" division that is actually comparatively stronger, not the "east." Hell, it would be stronger this year (preseason) with 3 potential top-10 teams (compared to 2 in the East).

[Panther789]

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That is right. The past few years, it's the "west" division that is actually comparatively stronger, not the "east."

That's not true.

Numbers since 2002.

League Champion -
- 6 years the champion/co-champions came from the "East"
- 2 years the co-champions came from the East and West (no team from the west has won the conference outright, and never during this period have 2 teams from the west shared the crown)

Top 3 in League
- 7 years, at least 2 of the 3 were from the "East"
- 1 year, at lest 2 of the 3 were from the West

Nebraska improves the West, but they have not had a ton of success recently, and they certainly wouldn't have changed the above numbers to the point where the "west" would be comparatively stronger. It's not close.

Long-term, its no secret that OSU, Michigan, PSU, and Nebraska are the traditional powers, with the 3 teams from the "east" having stronger recruiting bases.

[cydave]

Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

Yeah the Big 12 is talking now that with only 10 teams they each would make 15-17 million after the new contract next year... Add that the 20 million the big 12 can pay right now due to CU and Neb. jumping ship.... This new conference shake up might actually work out for the better for ISU. Hope the Big 12/10 stays as a conference.

I agree. At least from a financial perspective. From a stability standpoint, ISU needs to part ways with Texas. That being said, I hope the Big 12 stays together and gets a huge pay increase from TV revenue.

[Panther789]

Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

Chip Brown, the guy who has broken much of the news regarding the Big XII, now suggests Texas may want to stay put in a 10 team conference. Perhaps a bit of hope for ISU afterall.

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1094038

ESPN reporter now reporting Texas is gone. This is all very interesting, but I will be glad when the dust has settled.

[williebat]

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ESPN reporter now reporting Texas is gone. This is all very interesting, but I will be glad when the dust has settled.

CBS sports is reporting that texas is staying in big 12

[06panther10]

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I am reporting that Texas is dropping academics, and joining the NFL and NBA.

[DomeRanger Posse]

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I am reporting that it may or may not rain today, depending on your location. News at 11.