UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

[UNI83]

Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

But they haven't even been mentioned yet. And since this is going on at the FBS level, FCS schools aren't even involved. So why should Culver say he's going to save UNI when they aren't even in trouble yet?

The FCS will see movements. The WAC is looking at 5-7 FCS schools to fill holes that are left by BSU and maybe Fresno St/Nevada moving out. Depending on what goes on with the ACC and Big East James Madison, Delaware, Old Dominion, Villinova, App State, etc... could all be moving as well.


Also keep in mind, as bad as NDSU has been since the have joined the MVFC for some reason their fans think they are a legit contender for the WAC.

[CincyPanther88]

Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

Also keep in mind, as bad as NDSU has been since the have joined the MVFC for some reason their fans think they are a legit contender for the WAC.

Yes, but they are delusional so I wouldn't take anything they say seriously.

[Panther-Sheik]

Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

The WAC's efforts to hang onto an FBS classification might be futile in the end. I really don't see much room for regular old FBS teams or conferences once these mega conferences align. I think there is a real possibility that these mega conferences cause more teams to drop down to FCS rather than FCS teams to move up to FBS. Most of these bottom feeder FBS schools are already leaking money. I think FCS grows in numbers over the coming years. Maybe the real reason why the playoffs are being expanded? Has the NCAA "known" that FCS numbers would be increasing in coming years?

[Newsbreaker]

Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

Exactly. Texas will do only what benefits itself and nothing else. All schools do this, but I think Texas has been especially greedy because they could get away with it.

It has been Texas' insistence on maintaining the status quo on conference revenue sharing, along with the Big XII commissioner's general incompetence that brought the Big XII to the brink of extinction.

Interesting note from the presentation made at the UNL Board of Regents meeting today: UNL said that they were asked to declare, publicly, their intention to stay in the Big XII. This request was made by Texas. They responded by saying that the only commitment that meant anything to a league was a school assigning their media rights to the league on a long-term basis. Eleven Big XII schools were willing to do that. Texas was not. At that point, UNL decided it was time to move on as it was clear one member was not committed to the league.

Also, if Mizzou, who has been left at the alter, hadn't made their campaign for admission to the Big Ten so public then UNL probably wouldn't have reached out to the league.

But football is looking at competing with Drake in the Pioneer League...

You are 100% off the reservation at this point. Again, I'm honestly embarrassed for you.

[Cat80]

Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

http://iowastate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1093163
All rumors at this point, but I am seeing this possible scenario thrown around, no realiable source of course. But, I would be very happy if this played out:

West
KU
K-State
Mizzou
Iowa State
Cincy
Louisville
Depaul (No FB)
Marquette (No FB)

East
WVU
S. Florida
Cuse
Rutgers
Pitt
UCONN
Villanova (No FB)
Georgetown (No FB)

Dave, Villanova plays FCS scholarship football, Georgetown plays non-scholarship FCS football. Remember FCS scholarship football teams? ISU even loses to one every now and then.

[jegbomb52]

Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

FWIW Nova and Georgetown both have football. Hell, Nova is the defending NCAA Division 1 champion.

Of the 12 schools in that scenario Nova would be in the top half program wise.

[96' Alum]

Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

News, I get that you are giddy about Iowa State's fate....I would expect nothing else from a "person" like you....

But in your giddiness ON A UNI SITE, you don't even have the stones to discuss what this will mean to Panther athletics, especially football....I get that you can never bring yourself to even approach candor when it comes to your beloved Hawks....And for that I am embarrassed for you...

[cydave]

Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

Dave, Villanova plays FCS scholarship football, Georgetown plays non-scholarship FCS football. Remember FCS scholarship football teams? ISU even loses to one every now and then.

See post # 217.
Also, I didn't even make that up, I copied and pasted it from another place. So, if you want to yell at somebody, go find the person who actually made it. Ok, thanks.

[96' Alum]

Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

Also ol Newsy, it is interesting that you never did answer a very simple question of who wrote the 242 Million in revenue checks to the Big 10/11/12 schools....

Imagine a "person" (in the loosest sense of the word) like you ignoring things that don't fit into you telling everybody what to think....

You are a very poor man's Bill O'Reilly, or an even poorer Keith Olberman (depending on your political leanings) ignore or attack anything that contradicts your ramblings...The fact that this parody of a human being is all you have been reduced to at this stage of your life would make me sad for you.....

[Newsbreaker]

Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

News, I get that you are giddy about Iowa State's fate....I would expect nothing else from a "person" like you....

But in your giddiness ON A UNI SITE, you don't even have the stones to discuss what this will mean to Panther athletics, especially football....I get that you can never bring yourself to even approach candor when it comes to your beloved Hawks....And for that I am embarrassed for you...

You don't understand how to use quotations. I am indeed a person. There is no doubt about that. Here, I will demonstrate.

You have shown your "intelligence" in this thread.

See? In fact, you have been caught in contradictions and unsubstantiated conclusions. Intelligence has in fact been lacking. I, on the other hand, obviously possess the qualities of a person. This is hard. You should practice elsewhere and then come back when you are ready for a higher level of competition.

I haven't shown much (if anything) in the way of "giddiness" about Iowa State's future prospects. (This time these quotation marks set off a direct quotation to denote the terms is yours, not mine.) I'd ask you to link to the place where such "giddiness" was displayed, but if anything has been proven in this thread, asking you to link to things which would substantiate your claims is like yelling "Down in front!" when standing behind a mountain.

I don't believe, absent a major shift in NCAA Football classifications, this will have any significant effect on UNI. In fact, I think the (potential) change in ISU's financial prospects will actually take pressure off UNI and set more realistic financial expectations on the part of the Board of Regents.

But in your giddiness ON A UNI SITE, you don't even have the stones to discuss what this will mean to Panther athletics, especially football....I get that you can never bring yourself to even approach candor when it comes to your beloved Hawks

Let's have fun with this one last time.

I apparently don't discuss UNI because I can't approach Iowa with candor.

Keep digging my friend, keep digging.

[96' Alum]

Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

You don't understand how to use quotations. I am indeed a person. There is no doubt about that. Here, I will demonstrate.

You have shown your "intelligence" in this thread.

See? In fact, you have been caught in contradictions and unsubstantiated conclusions. Intelligence has in fact been lacking. I, on the other hand, obviously possess the qualities of a person. This is hard. You should practice elsewhere and then come back when you are ready for a higher level of competition.

I haven't shown much (if anything) in the way of "giddiness" about Iowa State's future prospects. (This time these quotation marks set off a direct quotation to denote the terms is yours, not mine.) I'd ask you to link to the place where such "giddiness" was displayed, but if anything has been proven in this thread, asking you to link to things which would substantiate your claims is like yelling "Down in front!" when standing behind a mountain.

I don't believe, absent a major shift in NCAA Football classifications, this will have any significant effect on UNI. In fact, I think the (potential) change in ISU's financial prospects will actually take pressure off UNI and set more realistic financial expectations on the part of the Board of Regents.



Let's have fun with this one last time.

I apparently don't discuss UNI because I can't approach Iowa with candor.

Keep digging my friend, keep digging.

I will even quote you...So I can assist your attempts at your delusions of grandeur...

It is amazing, though, in your entire ramblings you continue to avoid central issues....Those were a lot of words, and yet you failed in one simple request...That was for you to answer the question, you pathetic wannabe sage...Now deflect and dodge again, because it doesn't fit your warped world view...

As far as contradictions do you mean like extolling the virtue of Big 10/11 academics, and protesting how the academic side of the invitations will play a central role....Then trying to excuse the invites to lesser institutions by doing a media study about the television revenues that Missouri would bring to the conference....

It's OK News, I know that discussing actual UNI sports is something you rarely do anyway unless it's to defend the Hawks or, criticize the budget issues....So I certainly wouldn't want you to start now when this problem will be caused by the very thing that you love and defend...

OK, now you can dissect this post, avoid issues that don't fit with your warped view. I bet you are that guy that talks over people during disagreements which I am sure is pretty regular occurance, drown them out., and avoid candor, attack attack attack...But most of all, please don't answer the one basic question I have asked four times...

[Panthers to the Bone]

Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

IMO, one of the best win-win scenarios for UNI and Iowa State in this whole ordeal (and I don't really foresee it happening) is if ISU/KU/K-State/Mizzou joined the Big East for all sports, and the MVC were to get DePaul and Marquette from the Big East and Dayton/Xavier/SLU/Butler (any 2 combination of the 4) to get to 14 teams. This would add the Chicago and Milwaukee markets. This won't happen, but it would be interesting to see. This would allow the Big East to be more football based, while keeping it's strong basketball tradition. DePaul hasn't been much of a basketball threat since Quentin Richardson left for the NBA, and Marquette has been solid, but not dominant. The MVC would then look like this:
East:
Dayton/Xavier/Butler/SLU (any 2 combination of the 4---if SLU were to join, they would go west, Bradley east)
Indiana State
Evansville
Marquette
DePaul
Illinois State

West:
SIU
Bradley
UNI
Missouri State
Drake
Creighton
Wichita State

Fun to think about. Conf tourney in Chicago, STL, KC rotating

[Cat80]

Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

See post # 217.
Also, I didn't even make that up, I copied and pasted it from another place. So, if you want to yell at somebody, go find the person who actually made it. Ok, thanks.

Now that you've confirmed you don't care about facts----

[Cat80]

Re: UNI to join a conference with Kansas and ISU?

IMO, one of the best win-win scenarios for UNI and Iowa State in this whole ordeal (and I don't really foresee it happening) is if ISU/KU/K-State/Mizzou joined the Big East for all sports, and the MVC were to get DePaul and Marquette from the Big East and Dayton/Xavier/SLU/Butler (any 2 combination of the 4) to get to 14 teams. This would add the Chicago and Milwaukee markets. This won't happen, but it would be interesting to see. This would allow the Big East to be more football based, while keeping it's strong basketball tradition. DePaul hasn't been much of a basketball threat since Quentin Richardson left for the NBA, and Marquette has been solid, but not dominant. The MVC would then look like this:
East:
Dayton/Xavier/Butler/SLU (any 2 combination of the 4---if SLU were to join, they would go west, Bradley east)
Indiana State
Evansville
Marquette
DePaul
Illinois State

West:
SIU
Bradley
UNI
Missouri State
Drake
Creighton
Wichita State

Fun to think about. Conf tourney in Chicago, STL, KC rotating

If the Big12 does cease to exist, does that remove any/most of the objections regarding KC and the MVC tournament?

[Panthers to the Bone]

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If the Big12 does cease to exist, does that remove any/most of the objections regarding KC and the MVC tournament?

I honestly don't think that there were any serious objections in moving the MVC tourney to KC on a rotation basis, based on the fact that the Big 12 Tourney was there every couple years. I don't think the MVC Tourney would ever move exclusively to KC, with the MVC offices in STL and such a tradition of the tourney being there.