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[Durf73]

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Kansas better quit ignoring teams with three letters in their name: VCU & UNI. Good bye Jay Hawks!!!!:

[Panther-Sheik]

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Unreal!!! VCU is stunning the world.

[DrewDog]

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VCU "Farokhmaneshed" KU!!!!!!!! I love it! I think our office pool might be decided already!

[Neighbor]

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Why would you congratulate them at half time?

becasue by the time many read this the game is over

told ya!

[Newsbreaker]

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From the First Four to the Final Four...unbelievable. That is one of the best, sustained tourney performances of all-time.

You've just gotta love the all mid-major semi-final on Saturday.

[UNIChippewa]

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Before the start of the game Greg Anthony said that Kansas "clearly has the better team" but "this is what's great about the NCAA - the best team doesn't always win."

Really Greg? Why exactly is Kansas "clearly the best team"? Because they beat a 16 seed, an 8 (or 9, don't remember) seed, a 12 seed, and now are playing an 11 seed? Because a bunch of overpaid names in suits say they are the best team?

I thought we played this tournament to find out WHO the best team actually is . . .

Go Rams!

Well, let's be fair here. Kansas IS the better team, that's why they won 30+ games and until this afternoon had lost only two. VCU has lost 11 games, but today in the head-to-head matchup they won when it counted.

I believe in giving the "mid-majors" respect as much as anyone, but let's not hold this huge permanent chip on our shoulder against the media for stating the obvious.

[jman2004]

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Well, let's be fair here. Kansas IS the better team, that's why they won 30+ games and until this afternoon had lost only two. VCU has lost 11 games, but today in the head-to-head matchup they won when it counted.

I believe in giving the "mid-majors" respect as much as anyone, but let's not hold this huge permanent chip on our shoulder against the media for stating the obvious.

With all due respect, I get just as tired hearing excuses like this. If Kansas is clearly the better team, they should've been able to get by VCU today. But they didn't. Maybe Kansas won 30 games because the Big 12 was garbage this year . . . Fact of the matter is, there is just too much parity in college basketball today. Too many great players exist outside of the McDonalds All-Americans and too many great young coaches know how to get the most out of their talent.

Sorry, but as long as teams like this year's Clemson, Georgia, and other Power 6 conference teams sneak into the tournament but VCU and UAB take all the media brunt, chip will remain firmly in place on shoulder.

[Panther789]

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From the First Four to the Final Four...unbelievable. That is one of the best, sustained tourney performances of all-time.

You've just gotta love the all mid-major semi-final on Saturday.

VCU was Lunardi's 7th team out in his final bracket Sunday afternoon.

Unbelievable run!

[jman2004]

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Also, Kansas had great wins against Arizona and UCLA this season, but other than that, their non-conference schedule was pretty weak. Maybe, just maybe, Kansas once again wasn't the incredible team people thought they were. I remember watching them a number of times this season, as well as Texas, think to myself, they were extremely overrated.

Just an overall competitive season of college basketball. I don't think Kansas is all that much. In fact, I think their team last year was much more balanced.

[Newsbreaker]

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With all due respect, I get just as tired hearing excuses like this. If Kansas is clearly the better team, they should've been able to get by VCU today. But they didn't. Maybe Kansas won 30 games because the Big 12 was garbage this year . . . Fact of the matter is, there is just too much parity in college basketball today. Too many great players exist outside of the McDonalds All-Americans and too many great young coaches know how to get the most out of their talent.

Sorry, but as long as teams like this year's Clemson, Georgia, and other Power 6 conference teams sneak into the tournament but VCU and UAB take all the media brunt, chip will remain firmly in place on shoulder.

I'm as excited about the two mid-majors in the final four as anyone outside Richmond and Indy, but this shows an inexcusable lack of understanding of the game of basketball. Basketball isn't a game where the better team always wins.

If VCU payed Kansas 100 times, they might win five or ten. They did it today, when it counted, and for that they will be justly rewarded, but one shouldn't confused the (by necessity) one-and-done format as finding the "best" team. It finds the champion, but that isn't necessarily the best team.

[jman2004]

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Then what does find the "best" team?

[jman2004]

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And "inexcusable lack of understanding" . . . wow, that's just condescending and mean.

[cydave]

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Then what does find the "best" team?

Going completely undefeated on the year, is arguably the only way to find the best team.
By using your "head to head" match up for finding the best team, there are currently 11 better teams than VCU. It's kind of like using the transitive theory in sports, it doesn't make much sense. (i.e. Georgia St beat VCU, so that means they are better than them, as well as Kansas, etc.)

Just my 2 cents.
That being said, I would love to see VCU beat Butler. What an awesome story!

[Newsbreaker]

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Then what does find the "best" team?

Many games. We don't find "the best" team in college basketball. We instead agree upon a specific method to determine a champion.

Notice that the NBA, where time is less valuable, doesn't use the one-and-done formula. They use a system whereby more games are used to allow the better team to prove itself. Notice that we don"'t play conference games until there is only one undefeated team left and then call them champion. We understand that the better team sometimes loses. In tournament play we don't have time for the many games needed to truly separate teams, or better separate teams, so we do with what is feasible.

Assume VCU wins the title. How can they be the best when, over more games, they weren't even the best team in their league? If one game proves "best" then isn't every team who beat them this year better than they are?

[jman2004]

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Many games. We don't find "the best" team in college basketball. We instead agree upon a specific method to determine a champion.

Notice that the NBA, where time is less valuable, doesn't use the one-and-done formula. They use a system whereby more games are used to allow the better team to prove itself. Notice that we don"'t play conference games until there is only one undefeated team left and then call them champion. We understand that the better team sometimes loses. In tournament play we don't have time for the many games needed to truly separate teams, or better separate teams, so we do with what is feasible.

Assume VCU wins the title. How can they be the best when, over more games, they weren't even the best team in their league? If one game proves "best" then isn't every team who beat them this year better than they are?

I can agree with that. I was just spouting off, like everyone else does from time to time.

Still didn't like the "inexcusable lack of understanding" comment . . . kind of rude.