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[UNI MadCat]

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I've heard these excuses for the big schools so many times. It's laughable. It's amazing that so many people, especially the media, can't think outside the box. They can't seem to be able to wrap their minds around the fact that maybe some of these non-BCS schools are actually better than the "name" schools. So many people automatically give the "name" schools a pass. For example, Kansas has lost to Bucknell, Bradley, UNI, and VCU in the tourney, and still people think Kansas is far superior. It's amazing that so many people can't see beyond the name on the jersey.

They've also gone to two Final Fours and won an national title during the time period you're mentioning. The reason we remember "Bucknell, Bradley, UNI, and VCU" games is because of KU's sustained success.

[UNI MadCat]

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The idea that a team like Kansas, who has now failed to turn around and perform on day 3 for the 2nd year in a row, should get 3 or 5 games to demonstrate that they are somehow better is silly.

You dont actually believe this do you?

[Hail Our Panthers]

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Then why does MLB, NBA, and NHL do it in a "best of" format? Why doesn't the team who wins game one of each of those series always win the series itself?

Plus, you know, the whole money money thing would favor a series

[Newsbreaker]

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Plus, you know, the whole money money thing would favor a series

True, but they were playing long series long before there was any significant money to be had. Major League Baseball played a best-of-nine long before there was TV money to be had. The NBA played a best-of when the Finals were only seen via tape delay - a one-game championship would have been worth more money to them at that point, as it would have been more likely to gain marquee billing.

[95UNIGRAD]

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Then why does MLB, NBA, and NHL do it in a "best of" format? Why doesn't the team who wins game one of each of those series always win the series itself?

It's because the winner on a given day only proves that - the better team that day. More games gives a better look at the teams.

Yes, everybody knows the format in college basketball, which is why it is a legitimate way to award a title, but that doesn't mean it is going to the best team.

The pro leagues do it that way to "get it right". Riiiiiiight. You don't think more money for the TV networks and the league suits has anything to do with it, right?

I love this format - if you're superior, show it on the damn court. No polls or computer formulas like the BcS. They get games close to home, higher seeds, and media attention, and now they need a stretched-out format to show that they're the best? Laughable.

[Newsbreaker]

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The pro leagues do it that way to "get it right". Riiiiiiight. You don't think more money for the TV networks and the league suits has anything to do with it, right?

I love this format - if you're superior, show it on the damn court. No polls or computer formulas like the BcS. They get games close to home, higher seeds, and media attention, and now they need a stretched-out format to show that they're the best? Laughable.

There can be multiple motivations for something, you know.

If VCU is superior, why did they lose so many regular-season games? Why couldn't they show it in conference play or their one-and-done league tourney? In fact, why haven't any of the remaining teams shown it on the court, since they have all lost to teams who are done already?

Again, in the "best-of" formats, why doesn't the team that wins game one always win the series, since one game proves supremacy?

[LA_Panther]

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The pro leagues do it that way to "get it right". Riiiiiiight. You don't think more money for the TV networks and the league suits has anything to do with it, right?

I love this format - if you're superior, show it on the damn court. No polls or computer formulas like the BcS. They get games close to home, higher seeds, and media attention, and now they need a stretched-out format to show that they're the best? Laughable.

Agreed. It is laughable.

I guess they should just keep adding games until the BCS schools win more than the Little Sisters of the Poor.

[UNI Prof]

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Kansas lost to Kansas State this year by 20. Seriously.

[Newsbreaker]

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Agreed. It is laughable.

I guess they should just keep adding games until the BCS schools win more than the Little Sisters of the Poor.

Answer the question. If one game provs who the better team is, why don't the series always go to the game-one winner? VCU lost several games this year - how can they be better than any of those teams?

[LA_Panther]

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If VCU and Kansas played a best-of series, there's no reason to believe VCU couldn't win the series.

[Newsbreaker]

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Say no more. Your unwillingness to answer the question says everything.

[Panther-Sheik]

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Silly to argue or speculate, cuz it just doesn't matter. I feel in my purple and gold heart that UNI was the best team in FCS in 2008, but it really doesn't matter now does it? It is all about proving it on the field / court and bringing home the hardware. UNI didn't do it and Kansas won't be again this year, either.

[Newsbreaker]

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Silly to argue or speculate, cuz it just doesn't matter. I feel in my purple and gold heart that UNI was the best team in FCS in 2008, but it really doesn't matter now does it? It is all about proving it on the field / court and bringing home the hardware. UNI didn't do it and Kansas won't be again this year, either.

Ultimately, this is a fantastic attitude. We set up championship competitons, everyone agrees to play by those rules, and that's all that really matters. Still, it isn't more than what it can be - it is a way of determining a champion, which is inherently arbitrary, not the qualitatively "best" team.

[domedays]

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VCU beating Georgetown by 18, Purdue by 18 and Kansas by 10, is pretty impressive. I don't think it is a lock that Kansas would win in a series.

[Panthers to the Bone]

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VCU and George Mason...

Both Final Four runs started in Wichita for Bracket Busters. Pretty ironic.