Barta sez decision on in-state basketball games could come soon

[9YRPLAN]

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what was the % of des moines-area alums that contribute to the PSC? i dont remember the figure but it was embarrassing.

[cyclonepanther]

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UNI fans have an identity crisis. We should be much prouder of our teams & university than we are. The media has it beat into our heads that you have to be an Iowa or Clown fan to be a real person. The hell with that. Be yourself & be proud of your university & how far it has come. Fight for it, represent it & be proud of it. There is nothing more that says something about someone's confidence than being a UNI grad that cheers for the other two teams & thumbs UNI.

This nails it. We all complain about the lack of support and repsect that UNI gets. It starts with the student body. They have a lack of pride in their chosen University. They are appolgetic for attending UNI instead of going that "GREAT" school in Iowa City. They wear black and gold will donate to Iowa, but when UNI makes a run in basketball or football oh then they are UNI fans. After the run is over they are back to being Iowa fans. It Iowa would have had the success that we have had the last 9 years in backetball they would be just estatic and they would be even more unbarable. Everytime they get a new backetball he is immediatly the second coming.

Nothing will change at UNI until the students and graduates have PRIDE in their Univerdity. The problem is that UNI adminstation think if they placate Iowa, UNI will somehow gain some respect. This attitude never works and never will. For students to develop some pride it has to start with the adminstation and just say no to this losing idea and move on. Let the choips fall where they may. Remeber Iowa never want to play Iowa State in football. It was the Iowa Legiislature that stepped in. This may happen again if we just day no.[/QUOTE
I am proud to be a uni grad. I love in Iowa city but always in uni gear and everyone its clear where I went to school. I agree that we should tell both Iowa State and Iowa where to put it. Screw them.

Unfortunately an awful lot of Northern Iowa graduates, while wearing Iowa Hok clothing, have told Iowa State fans where to stick it. Sad but true.

[Panther'73]

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PSC members in Des Moines area are less than 100.

[9YRPLAN]

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PSC members in Des Moines area are less than 100.

that pretty much sums up why iowa and isu get the headlines. their fans simply care more.

[cyclonepanther]

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PSC members in Des Moines area are less than 100.

I would bet that there are a lot more than 1,000 UNI graduates with no ties to the University of Iowa City whatsoever in the Des Moines area that contribute heavily to the I-Club.

[Panther-Sheik]

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that pretty much sums up why iowa and isu get the headlines. their fans simply care more.

Sad but very true.

[Silent Earl]

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Chicken and egg. You have to really work at being a UNI fan if you live in Dsm. When I moved here 30 years ago there were about 3 times as many hawk fans as cyclone fans. The cyclone fans were always whining about unequal coverage from the register and tv stations, and it was true at that time. For whatever reason shortly thereafter the register and tv stations starting going to great lengths to make sure their coverage of iowa and isu were as equal as possible. Now there are at least as many cyclone fans as hawk fans in the Dsm area, if not more.

UNI coverage continues to be almost nonexistent. It has actually gotten worse since we went with the KXNO coverage. Now you never know whether a UNI game is going to be on the radio in Dsm or not. The register gives us approximately two paragraphs for every full page the hawks and cyclones get.

Nobody in Dsm knows the PSC exists, or they do know, but don't know why they should support an athletic program that they cannot really follow from here.

[9YRPLAN]

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Chicken and egg. You have to really work at being a UNI fan if you live in Dsm. When I moved here 30 years ago there were about 3 times as many hawk fans as cyclone fans. The cyclone fans were always whining about unequal coverage from the register and tv stations, and it was true at that time. For whatever reason shortly thereafter the register and tv stations starting going to great lengths to make sure their coverage of iowa and isu were as equal as possible. Now there are at least as many cyclone fans as hawk fans in the Dsm area, if not more.

UNI coverage continues to be almost nonexistent. It has actually gotten worse since we went with the KXNO coverage. Now you never know whether a UNI game is going to be on the radio in Dsm or not. The register gives us approximately two paragraphs for every full page the hawks and cyclones get.

Nobody in Dsm knows the PSC exists, or they do know, but don't know why they should support an athletic program that they cannot really follow from here.

its up to the fans. there is also a rival MVC school here so its pretty hard to justify giving UNI more coverage when the fans really dont let their presence be known.

[cyclonepanther]

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its up to the fans. there is also a rival MVC school here so its pretty hard to justify giving UNI more coverage when the fans really dont let their presence be known.

Cyclone fans slightly outnumber Hok fans in the Des Moines area, but there are a lot more UNI fans in the Des Moines area than Drake fans.

[9YRPLAN]

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Cyclone fans slightly outnumber Hok fans in the Des Moines area, but there are a lot more UNI fans in the Des Moines area than Drake fans.

theres no way there are more ISU fans than iowa fans, but its closer than any other market except ames. .

there might be more UNI fans than drake fans, but neither fanbase is vocal so its hard for any of the local media to justify giving UNI much love unless they are making their own headlines.

[Silent Earl]

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its up to the fans. there is also a rival MVC school here so its pretty hard to justify giving UNI more coverage when the fans really dont let their presence be known.

How do they let their presence be known? Some on hear have said no UNI fans contribute to talk shows/Soundoff. Some of us spent years calling into and sending emails to the sports shows only to never get on the air or have our emails displayed/read. Eventually you just give up. Remember when UNI won some preseason poll about which football team would have the best season or something on Soundoff? They just claimed we cheated and declared the poll invalid. Like the hawk/cyclone fans never stuff the ballot box on those things. Every poll they do is a popularity contest, not a serious vote on a topic.

[TH1974]

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Nobody in Dsm knows the PSC exists, or they do know, but don't know why they should support an athletic program that they cannot really follow from here.

It's not really up to the Register, WHO or KXNO to push people to donate to the PSC. That's a failure of the athletics department.

[JD720]

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Remember when UNI won some preseason poll about which football team would have the best season or something on Soundoff? They just claimed we cheated and declared the poll invalid.

They did one a few years ago where Iowa was winning the poll and Keith and Andy were saying UNI should have been the obvious answer (I think the quesiton was which state school would have the most wins).

Of course, this was the year Iowa won the Orange bowl and we missed the playoffs, so Iowa ended up being the right answer to the question. It was also the year of the close game in Iowa City, but I don't remember if the poll was before or after that game.

[cyclonepanther]

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theres no way there are more ISU fans than iowa fans, but its closer than any other market except ames. .

LOL!

Maybe if you took a survey in front of the Front Row Bar in Windsor Heights (pictured below) you might be able to find more Hok fans than Iowa State fans, but otherwise no.

P.S. The Keg Stand (Iowa State's version of the Front Row) kicks Front Row's butt any day of the week.

[Silent Earl]

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It's not really up to the Register, WHO or KXNO to push people to donate to the PSC. That's a failure of the athletics department.

Well I didn't say that was up to them. What they should do is give UNI something close to proportionate coverage. UNI has almost as many Iowan students as the other two state schools and maybe half as many alumni in the state. So maybe instead of getting 5% as much coverage as the others they could give us 50% as much coverage. That would lead to a lot more alumni being fans and supporting UNI. As I pointed out above it worked for ISU.

It's stupid to blame Dsm alumni for lack of support. You may as well blame the alumni in Texas or California, they get pretty much the same level of coverage as the people in Dsm do. In fact, UNI has gotten a lot more positive national publicity in recent years than we have in Iowa. The media in Iowa are heavily invested in the myth that Iowa and ISU are some sort of athletic titans and every athletic event between them is epic. They've been milking that myth for all it's worth for decades and they more than anyone hate it when UNI comes along and beats the other two on a regular basis at anything.