Next Year

[ProwlingPanther]

Different players. Tuttle was more of a true inside guy with amazing footwork that he obviously put a lot of effort into perfecting. Carlson is a threat to put it on the floor and drive, and shoot threes. Tuttle could do a little of that, but that part of Carlson's game has way more upside than Tuttle ever dreamed of. That's why he's got the potential to be a far more difficult matchup for opponents in the next two years. He's not a post up all the time type player.

I see Carlson as more of a left handed version of Adam Koch

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[SteinPizza]

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I see Carlson as more of a left handed version of Adam Koch

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You're on the right track. Adam Koch wasn't a pure post player either. That's what made him dangerous for the opposition. IMO, Carlson is ahead of Adam Koch at the same age.

Ultimately, you want guys who create matchup problems for your opponent, guys who aren't easy to defend, etc. Carlson has that, and you can't say that about the vast majority of guys on our roster, past or present.

[claw]

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You're on the right track. Adam Koch wasn't a pure post player either. That's what made him dangerous for the opposition. IMO, Carlson is ahead of Adam Koch at the same age.

Ultimately, you want guys who create matchup problems for your opponent, guys who aren't easy to defend, etc. Carlson has that, and you can't say that about the vast majority of guys on our roster, past or present.

More than you'd think, especially by the time they graduated, though Klint does seem to be much further a head than most of the others at the same point in their careers.

There are guys that are easy to point out as not easy to defend - Adam and Jake, Wes, Tuttle, Anthony James - because of their ability to go inside and out and/or driving ability.

However, the reality is guys like Matty Bo are incredibly hard to defend as well. Look how many times he ran off of screens/back screens/back doors for a lay up. Teams fall into the trap of thinking he's only a shooter and play him as such. Sonnen was much the same way. Lohaus isn't going to drive around someone and go to the rim, but he has the ability to walk the ball up the court and just cold blooded drain a 3 in your face (see TAMU OT), catch the ball and take one or two hard steps and pull into a mid-range if you play him close. Johnny's incredible stamina to run off screens and cut an entire possession made him incredibly hard to guard for the full game.

I know what you're getting at, it's your dead horse topic. You mean someone that is one of two things - 6'7 or 6'8 plus that is big enough to post up inside but can step out and hit a three OR you mean someone that isn't white that is fast enough to do what Wes or AJ did.

[Username]

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Carlson's a lot quicker, and more athletic than we give him credit for.

[CyCarp]

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I see Carlson as more of a left handed version of Adam Koch

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I thought the same thing when I saw the Tuttle comparison. I really hope Carlson works on going to his right this offseason. He really didn't play that much this year, teams will defend him a lot better if he can't go right imo.

[GonzoCat]

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Tuttle was MVC POY and second team AA. He was double or tripled teamed every time he got the ball in the post. If Carlson presents a more difficult match up than that UNI will make the Elite 8.

[claw]

Tuttle was MVC POY and second team AA. He was double or tripled teamed every time he got the ball in the post. If Carlson presents a more difficult match up than that UNI will make the Elite 8.

Those don't correlate

[northwest iowa panther]

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Carlson's best attribute is that his motor is always running pedal to the metal.

[Marc Wigim]

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Here are my thoughts, if anyone cares:

• We will have to be an inside-out team. There's no question. We will have immense size and strength inside, not to mention a little bit of athleticism in Klint Carlson and Jeremy Morgan. If Dahl is as good as I think he is, there will be a high ceiling for our offensive production if we can get our bigs going.
• Our guard situation worries me a little, but I like this Juwan McCloud kid we have coming in. With Wyatt and Morgan coming back we should have just enough veteran leadership so that the young guys can grow.
• Again, this bears repeating: we will have the kind of size inside next year that you just don't see at a smaller school. The Valley will have a difficult time trying to solve our game if we can figure out how to get some blippin' rebounds. Bennett Koch simply HAS to show major improvement for us to be competitive in the Valley next year.

Those are just some musings. Tear me apart ad infinitum.

[SteinPizza]

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More than you'd think, especially by the time they graduated, though Klint does seem to be much further a head than most of the others at the same point in their careers.

There are guys that are easy to point out as not easy to defend - Adam and Jake, Wes, Tuttle, Anthony James - because of their ability to go inside and out and/or driving ability.

However, the reality is guys like Matty Bo are incredibly hard to defend as well. Look how many times he ran off of screens/back screens/back doors for a lay up. Teams fall into the trap of thinking he's only a shooter and play him as such. Sonnen was much the same way. Lohaus isn't going to drive around someone and go to the rim, but he has the ability to walk the ball up the court and just cold blooded drain a 3 in your face (see TAMU OT), catch the ball and take one or two hard steps and pull into a mid-range if you play him close. Johnny's incredible stamina to run off screens and cut an entire possession made him incredibly hard to guard for the full game.

I know what you're getting at, it's your dead horse topic. You mean someone that is one of two things - 6'7 or 6'8 plus that is big enough to post up inside but can step out and hit a three OR you mean someone that isn't white that is fast enough to do what Wes or AJ did.

My dead horse topic. LOL. Attempting to ridicule something isn't the same thing as refuting it's accuracy. Also, skin color is irrelevant to this. What is relevant is playmaking ability. Not every guy on a team can realistically do this, but as long as you have a couple, and some role players with good complimentary skillsets to go around them, you can be a dangerous team. That's not unrealistic for UNI, as our recent good teams have been built that way, or close.

[DownGoesKansas]

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Here are my thoughts, if anyone cares:

• We will have to be an inside-out team. There's no question. We will have immense size and strength inside, not to mention a little bit of athleticism in Klint Carlson and Jeremy Morgan. If Dahl is as good as I think he is, there will be a high ceiling for our offensive production if we can get our bigs going.
• Our guard situation worries me a little, but I like this Juwan McCloud kid we have coming in. With Wyatt and Morgan coming back we should have just enough veteran leadership so that the young guys can grow.
• Again, this bears repeating: we will have the kind of size inside next year that you just don't see at a smaller school. The Valley will have a difficult time trying to solve our game if we can figure out how to get some blippin' rebounds. Bennett Koch simply HAS to show major improvement for us to be competitive in the Valley next year.

Those are just some musings. Tear me apart ad infinitum.

Agree on the inside size. It's something we really haven't had since 2010. Should see some interesting lineups. McDonnell should be a good player as well.

With guards, I think a lot of people are sleeping on Haldeman. He is a sharpshooter but have also heard good things on his quickness. I really think he would not have red-shirted this year if not for the ridiculous guard depth we had at the beginning of the year (Or if they knew Austin was going to transfer).

A concern for me is that our guards will be a lot shorter overall, outside of Morgan our only size at the wing will be from freshmen (and maybe Klint but Im not sure we will see him at the 3).

It will be nice to have depth again though

[run&blade]

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Carlson will cause havoc inside because he can play inside and with his outside game he can pull the defensive bigs away from the rim. Carlson can also drive to the hoop when a big steps out to gaurd him. He could become matchup hell for other coaches.

Put a gaurd on him Carlson will post him up. Put a big on him and he can pull him away from the rim and drive past him. The defense will need a fairly athletic and long guy to guard Carlson. Those are tough to come by in the Mvc.

[Stickboy46]

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From a Shocker fan .. the 2 guys you have returning that scare me for next year is Lohaus and Carlson. Both played great in Wichita and really picked it up at the end of the year. I have no idea about any of your RS players or incoming guys, but those 2 are good. I'm not ready to call Carlson a Tuttle replacement yet (Tuttle was a special player), but he has lots of potential.

[Panther100]

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Carlson needs to improve 3 point shooting, drives to the right side of the rim, and post up moves on the right side of the lane. He has plenty of time to shine.

[PantherAlum 2008]

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I hope Lohaus can become more consistent with his level of play that he showed toward the end of this season, most notably at Wichita State. While his overall play was better at the end of the season, he was still kind of streaky game to game. He has shown he can shoot 3s, jump shots and even cut to the basket, just needs to work on bringing those skills to every game.