Next Year

[Username]

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MVC isn't the a10 or MVC, but it's probably in the next tier with the WCC.

[achrist70]

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The Mountain West was terrible this year and got only it's autobid in which was a 14 seed.

[PanthersKB]

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Alright!!!! Way to go!!!!!!!!!!! You forgot we would construct a 50,000+ new Football stadium!!!!!

Best option: Tear down the McLeod Center. Get rid of Men's Basketball. Cash in on the major cash cow in the NCAA: HOCKEY!

[Zakelsta]

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This conversation pops up every time we have a particularly good season. And it always ends the same: unless something significant happens across the NCAA (power 5 breaking off to create division 0 in football), we are where we will be for the next decade.

But, since it's officially the offseason and we're having fun, I've thought for a while that the Big 12 might actually be a better fit for us. (Not that they'd want us). Geographically ideal, we have an in state rival in conference, they only have 10 teams.

We would instantly fall to the basement in football, but would compete consistently in volleyball, men's basketball, women's basketball, and wrestling. Not that we would win the conference in any of those right away, but we wouldn't be at the bottom, certainly, and would likely be near the top in volleyball and wrestling.

The reason that won't happen, is because we offer zero financial benefit to the big 12. We don't open up a new big market, we aren't a destination, we just become another team leeching cash off of Texas. But I believe we could compete well.

[MnPantherFan]

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Construct a 50,000+ new Football stadium!!!!! Drop football and use it for drum and bugle corp. competitions but show it to bb recruits to impress them (don't mention that we don't actually use it for football!). WSU leaves and we win Arch Madness every year. Problem solved!!!!!!!

[CyCarp]

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Since we're talking about leaving the MVC, can somebody explain to me why Wichita St could/would get into a better conference before us? I compare WSU/UNI athletics, and I really don't understand how Wichita St fans think they'll be out of the MVC in no time. The two biggest sports are undoubtedly football and men's basketball - we actually have football (that actually competes) and a basketball program that is just as good as theirs. Am I missing something or are they just delusional?

[in_the_stands]

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WSU is a major national research institution, and Wichita isn't like Evansville or Cedar Falls. Those were the WSU president's main talking points a couple of months ago, IIRC.

[GonzoCat]

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We would not be at the bottom of the B12 in football, not even before we got to add 22 scholarships.

[ubuntuCAT]

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and a basketball program that is just as good as theirs.

Competitively just as good? nah... close? Kind of

WSU has been to the tournament 5 years in a row and won 9 games in the tournament in those 5 years. UNI has 5 NCAA wins in history.

UNI isn't even on the same planet in terms of fan support and $$. I would imagine WSU basketball makes more $$ than UNI basketball/football combined. Might not even be that close.

[sivert]

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It would be nice if performance on the field and court was what it takes to move up to BCS. It's market share, fans in the seats, $$$, etc.
Wichita metro is 650k (Wikipedia). They're paying the cucumber, what? 2.5M?

[DownGoesKansas]

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Back to actual discussion of next year. We have a ton of minutes available so it will be interesting.

My prediction:

PG: Haldeman/McCloud
SG: Lohaus/Haldeman
SF: Morgan/Klint
PF: Klint/McDonnell
c: Koch/Dahl/Ted

Tanner/Brown: Really not sure what to expect from those two.

We have a scholarship available. I hope we look for a transfer wing (maybe a clone of Jesperson? ) who has to sit out then have 2 to play. Once Morgan graduates we have a desperate need for wings, It will also help balance classes.

[SteinPizza]

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Since we're talking about leaving the MVC, can somebody explain to me why Wichita St could/would get into a better conference before us? I compare WSU/UNI athletics, and I really don't understand how Wichita St fans think they'll be out of the MVC in no time. The two biggest sports are undoubtedly football and men's basketball - we actually have football (that actually competes) and a basketball program that is just as good as theirs. Am I missing something or are they just delusional?

They made the FF as a mid major, have been very relevant in national conversation the last several years, have some lineage for attracting talent, have more money, play in a basketball crazy state (even if it is largely rural), and just graduated two AAs. You sure you want to make that comparison?

Edit: we're not completely out of the team picture here. But, we have a ways to go to catch up with them. It is what it is.

[ubuntuCAT]

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It would be nice if performance on the field and court was what it takes to move up to BCS. It's market share, fans in the seats, $$$, etc.
Wichita metro is 650k (Wikipedia). They're paying the cucumber, what? 2.5M?

closer to 3.5M

[Panther100]

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Drop football and you may as well drop to D3

Okay, move everything except wrestling (MAC) to the MWC and upgrade to FBS Football. Retain FCOA MBB, increase scholarships/FCOA stipends in Football to FBS level, retain FCOA in all Women's sports. Of course, we still need that 50,000+ seat Football Stadium...BTW, I'd be okay with crushing the crap out some poor Iowa Conference School in the Mcloud in front of 3,500 rabid fans every December 21st...

[claw]

Don't needs 50Kseat stadium for the MWC

MWC was a 1 bid league this year and the champion was a 14 seed. Regular season champ didn't get into the tournament

There'd be no difference in FCOA between FCS and FBS

What are rabbit fans?