Washpun to NBA?

[UNIdad]

Re: Washpun to NBA?

Good question. These guys all probably just rent on semi short term leases, the same way many MLB guys do (I'm familiar with the baseball side of this, but would assume the same applies to the other pro sports.) The difference is probably the level of apartment/condo between minor and major leaguers. I doubt the Energy furnish a ton of prepaid apartments, but who knows? They could also put guys up in extended stay hotels - not sure though.

Found this:

For the 16-17 D-League season, there will only be two tiers for salaries as the “C” has been eliminated. The new salary levels will be $19,500 (B-Level) and $26,000 (A-Level) and the salary cap will rise to $209,000.


I've got to think that they also get housing and meals.

[UNI Ka-Bullseye]

Re: Washpun to NBA?

Good question. These guys all probably just rent on semi short term leases, the same way many MLB guys do (I'm familiar with the baseball side of this, but would assume the same applies to the other pro sports.) The difference is probably the level of apartment/condo between minor and major leaguers. I doubt the Energy furnish a ton of prepaid apartments, but who knows? They could also put guys up in extended stay hotels - not sure though.

I heard once that they share apartments (not sure if team-provided) and most have 2nd jobs to make ends meet. No idea if this is true though.

[Codytwo]

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I heard once that they share apartments (not sure if team-provided) and most have 2nd jobs to make ends meet. No idea if this is true though.

What sort of 2nd jobs do they typically have?

[catsize]

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What sort of 2nd jobs do they typically have?

Hopefully Wes takes a second job stocking shelves at Hy-Vee.

[sevelev711]

Re: Washpun to NBA?

So fun fact: after a very, very, VERY small sample size of three games and two starts, Wes is averaging 7 assists a game, which is enough for fourth best in the league, and 1.7 turnovers per game, for a AST/TO ratio of 4.11. The current best ratio in the D-League? 3.84. Only problem? The sample size is so small that it doesn't actually count him for year stats yet, which is completely fair. I'm just saying... He's gonna be fun to watch.

[SteinPizza]

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The Timberwolves just purchased a controlling interest in the Iowa Energy. If Wes is on the roster next season, that's his route to the NBA.

[claw]

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The Timberwolves just purchased a controlling interest in the Iowa Energy. If Wes is on the roster next season, that's his route to the NBA.

Is it though? It won't be as a PG, though that might not be a bad thing. Look at the Wolves roster

PG:
Rubio - may be traded and isn't loved by fans because his lack of scoring. He's a top 5 passer and fast break guy though.

Kris Dunn - their #1 draft pick this year. They are looking to move Rubio to get Dunn more minuts

Tyus Jones - may be moved, but was first round pick in last years draft.

The Wolves roster/rotation is interesting here at SG. Zach LaVine is the SG. Thibs love LaVine. He's really starting to "get it" under Thibs. His shooting is improving. His defense is improving. HOWEVR, after LaVine there isn't a ton of actual shooting guards. It's a rotation of Wiggins, Shabazz and Brandon Rush. All of whom are kind of combo 2/3 guys.

The trade talk around LaVine, Shabazz and Ricky is always there though. The Wolves are looking for an established star to go with KAT and Wiggins. They'd like to keep LaVine and Dunn. They were working with the Bulls for a trade for Jimmy Butler around the draft but fell through because Thibs wouldn't let go of LaVine and Dunn. With the season Jimmy is having he's likely well out of the picture for a trade.

Because of all the potential trades of guys like Shabazz, Ricky or even Tyus/LaVine it's tough to project Wes into that rotation. He does, however, fit what Thibs loves. High energy. High effort. Focus on defense. In a lot of ways Thibs and Jake are similar.

If Wes is going to play more of a 2 I think he'd have a real shot if a guy like Jimmy Butler isn't landed.

[SteinPizza]

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Is it though? It won't be as a PG, though that might not be a bad thing. Look at the Wolves roster

PG:
Rubio - may be traded and isn't loved by fans because his lack of scoring. He's a top 5 passer and fast break guy though.

Kris Dunn - their #1 draft pick this year. They are looking to move Rubio to get Dunn more minuts

Tyus Jones - may be moved, but was first round pick in last years draft.

The Wolves roster/rotation is interesting here at SG. Zach LaVine is the SG. Thibs love LaVine. He's really starting to "get it" under Thibs. His shooting is improving. His defense is improving. HOWEVR, after LaVine there isn't a ton of actual shooting guards. It's a rotation of Wiggins, Shabazz and Brandon Rush. All of whom are kind of combo 2/3 guys.

The trade talk around LaVine, Shabazz and Ricky is always there though. The Wolves are looking for an established star to go with KAT and Wiggins. They'd like to keep LaVine and Dunn. They were working with the Bulls for a trade for Jimmy Butler around the draft but fell through because Thibs wouldn't let go of LaVine and Dunn. With the season Jimmy is having he's likely well out of the picture for a trade.

Because of all the potential trades of guys like Shabazz, Ricky or even Tyus/LaVine it's tough to project Wes into that rotation. He does, however, fit what Thibs loves. High energy. High effort. Focus on defense. In a lot of ways Thibs and Jake are similar.

If Wes is going to play more of a 2 I think he'd have a real shot if a guy like Jimmy Butler isn't landed.

He's awfully small for a 2. No guarantee he'll be with Iowa either. The TWolves will want to bring in at least a few of their own developmental guys.

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He's awfully small for a 2. No guarantee he'll be with Iowa either. The TWolves will want to bring in at least a few of their own developmental guys.

Yep. Many of their statements about the purchase have talked about how much they value the D-League and want to use it. They have 4 or 5 regular rotation guys that were D-Leaguers early in their career. Shabazz, Tyus, Aldrich, and Payne that I know of for sure. Aldrich spent decent time int he D-League for other teams he's played for. However, guys like Bazz and Tyus have only gotten a week or two at a time and it's been all over. It's been Des Moines, Idaho, Sioux Falls, Pennsylvania, etc... Basically anywhere they could work a deal. Now they have a place specifically to put guys. Depending what happens with Ricky I wouldn't be shocked to see Tyus or Dunn spending decent time in Des Moines next year.

I am a Wolves guy. I'd love to see Wes get a shot up there and get to stay in Iowa. With his size he's limited to a PG role and if they are looking to potentially move on from Ricky and Tyus they aren't going to have much time for Wes, sadly.

[SteinPizza]

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I'm not sure what happens to the current roster. It's possible they could have some kind of tie to Memphis. The Grizzlies thing with Iowa was only a partnership, however, not majority ownership like the TWolves just bought.

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I'm not sure what happens to the current roster. It's possible they could have some kind of tie to Memphis. The Grizzlies thing with Iowa was only a partnership, however, not majority ownership like the TWolves just bought.

Most of the players are Iowa's contracts. I'm sure there are some tied to Memphis, but most of Iowa's players are theirs and will then belong to Minnesota after this year.

Some teams take full control of the D-League roster, some allow the team flexibility to sign who they want. I'm assuming that's part of how Wes ended up in Des Moines.

How does it work when a MiLB team switches affiliates? I'd assume much the same way. I don't know that process.

[SteinPizza]

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Most of the players are Iowa's contracts. I'm sure there are some tied to Memphis, but most of Iowa's players are theirs and will then belong to Minnesota after this year.

Some teams take full control of the D-League roster, some allow the team flexibility to sign who they want. I'm assuming that's part of how Wes ended up in Des Moines.

How does it work when a MiLB team switches affiliates? I'd assume much the same way. I don't know that process.

That's a partnership too, at least using the Iowa Cubs as an example. They're locally owned and controlled, but have a partnership agreement with the MLB Cubs. Not totally sure, but I'll bet all the AAA players are contractual property of Chicago. Most likely that's true all the way down the system too.

[UNIdad]

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That's a partnership too, at least using the Iowa Cubs as an example. They're locally owned and controlled, but have a partnership agreement with the MLB Cubs. Not totally sure, but I'll bet all the AAA players are contractual property of Chicago. Most likely that's true all the way down the system too.

So did all the Iowa Energy players just have their contracts automatically shifted to Minnesota? And if so, does Minnesota have other teams that they will need to merge? Or are they just acquiring the Iowa Energy and things will mostly continue on as they have been?

[CyCarp]

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That's a partnership too, at least using the Iowa Cubs as an example. They're locally owned and controlled, but have a partnership agreement with the MLB Cubs. Not totally sure, but I'll bet all the AAA players are contractual property of Chicago. Most likely that's true all the way down the system too.

Yea, players are property of the MLB team. Single A teams change affiliates quite often. The Cardinals single A team used to be Quad Cities, then switched to Peoria. The management and players moved to the new affiliate.

[SteinPizza]

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So did all the Iowa Energy players just have their contracts automatically shifted to Minnesota? And if so, does Minnesota have other teams that they will need to merge? Or are they just acquiring the Iowa Energy and things will mostly continue on as they have been?

Probably not, because some of them were probably drafted by the Grizzlies. I'd imagine that dictates ownership.