20 Wins

[hoopfan]

Re: 20 Wins

So, you want a guard that can't shoot to play and Dahl to transfer back home?...

I've said all along that McCloud should be playing. Nothing has changed there. No one is arguing that he hasn't shot the ball well.

You are the only person who has mentioned a word about Dahl transferring. I don't know why you think that is going to happen, but it hasn't come from anyone on this board except for you. Do you know Dahl personally? Friends with the family? What makes you speak with such conviction that he is leaving if he doesn't see the floor right now?

My question to you was fairly straight-forward and one you have yet to answer. Why do you think one guy should be benched and redshirted to develop, but another guy should be put on the floor to play right now to develop his game?

[BCPanther]

Re: 20 Wins

So, you want a guard that can't shoot to play and Dahl to transfer back home?...

To be honest, if Dahl can't see minutes in front of Friedman now, why would you be so concerned that he would transfer?

[claw]

Re: 20 Wins

To be honest, if Dahl can't see minutes in front of Friedman now, why would you be so concerned that he would transfer?

And "back home"? Are the Gophers taking him? St. Cloud State? Minnesota State-Mankato? Minnesota-Duluth? Bemidji State?

[Pantherlope2019]

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I've said all along that McCloud should be playing. Nothing has changed there. No one is arguing that he hasn't shot the ball well.

You are the only person who has mentioned a word about Dahl transferring. I don't know why you think that is going to happen, but it hasn't come from anyone on this board except for you. Do you know Dahl personally? Friends with the family? What makes you speak with such conviction that he is leaving if he doesn't see the floor right now?

My question to you was fairly straight-forward and one you have yet to answer. Why do you think one guy should be benched and redshirted to develop, but another guy should be put on the floor to play right now to develop his game?

McCloud's form is awful both from the line and the jump shot. He needs to red shirt next season to get that form where it needs to be. I never said Dahl would transfer to one of the D2 Minnesota schools. If you read carefully I said the word "speculation." I also said in the Loyola Thread on 1/19/17 at 9:38 AM that Dahl might transfer. I also listed the potential schools in Minnesota. Why would Dahl stick around if he would be regarded by coach as the 6th option next season? The order next season could be Carlson, Koch, McDonnell, Phyfe, Freidman, and Dahl. I understand he would lose a season, but that would leave him 2 seasons after sitting out 1. Why would he stick around for 3 seasons to ride the bench? This team might not make it to the Dance in the 3 years he has left...

[Pantherlope2019]

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To be honest, if Dahl can't see minutes in front of Friedman now, why would you be so concerned that he would transfer?

I like that Dahl has shown ability to attack the rim from both sides of the lane. That is something Koch has either refused to do or isn't allowed to do. Dahl has better form than Freidman shooting at the line. However, Dahl needs to practice the foul shooting and develop a jump shot from 15 feet on in. Dahl is noticeably slow on the defensive end. Coach Jake many times has been forced into playing zone to make up for the lack of speed and quickness. If nothing else I like him just fine... Why do you want to have to fill 3 spots next season instead of two?...

[Pantherlope2019]

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To be honest, if Dahl can't see minutes in front of Friedman now, why would you be so concerned that he would transfer?

Dahl 2.3 PPG in 9 games at 6.4 MPG vs Freidman .6 PPG in 19 games at 8.9 mpg. Dahl fg% 50% FT% 37.5% Freidman FG% 38.5 FT% 20%...

[UNIGrainer]

Re: 20 Wins

The team is playing as well as we can hope them to play right now. The biggest concern for me is the schedule. We still play @ISU Red, @Wichita @Mo State and at home against ISU Red. Those are all going to be very difficult games to win.

If we aren’t able to win those games, we’d have to go 6-0 in the remaining games to get to 9-9, 14-15.

[catsize]

Re: 20 Wins

LOL.

Most likely, Phyfe will redshirt next year as the only post who has not yet. That puts the rotation for next year in the post as similar to this year with the possible addition of Tanner Lohaus playing the 4 occasionally if we go small. So, Koch and Carlson with McDonnell and Friedman as back-up and Dahl working in. The following year gives us McDonnell starting at the 4 with either Dahl or Phyfe at the 5 and a possible transfer/freshman as the 4th post and/or Tanner Lohaus working in there as well.

[Khan4Cats]

Re: 20 Wins

The team is playing as well as we can hope them to play right now. The biggest concern for me is the schedule. We still play @ISU Red, @Wichita @Mo State and at home against ISU Red. Those are all going to be very difficult games to win.

If we aren’t able to win those games, we’d have to go 6-0 in the remaining games to get to 9-9, 14-15.

Win our home games, take Drake and we should be fine. Mo State could be tough but Jake is 7-3 down there, kind of the reverse of the Indiana jinx, though this year might be easier to win in Terre Haute. And yes, I know that we still have Illinois State at home, but that is on senior night and I don't think Jeremy goes out on a down note.

[CyCarp]

Re: 20 Wins

I've said all along that McCloud should be playing. Nothing has changed there. No one is arguing that he hasn't shot the ball well.

You are the only person who has mentioned a word about Dahl transferring. I don't know why you think that is going to happen, but it hasn't come from anyone on this board except for you. Do you know Dahl personally? Friends with the family? What makes you speak with such conviction that he is leaving if he doesn't see the floor right now?

My question to you was fairly straight-forward and one you have yet to answer. Why do you think one guy should be benched and redshirted to develop, but another guy should be put on the floor to play right now to develop his game?

I completely agree. Right now we're playing to win the Valley tourney. I think we need more than 6 guys contributing to do so. I think Juwan is our best bet to be that 7th guy, could really be a big piece to the puzzle in St Louis if he's comfortable. He's not going to get comfortable planning 8-10 min a night though. Either way, he's the only guy who's shown that he's not afraid to attack inside.

[UNIGrainer]

Re: 20 Wins

Win our home games, take Drake and we should be fine. Mo State could be tough but Jake is 7-3 down there, kind of the reverse of the Indiana jinx, though this year might be easier to win in Terre Haute. And yes, I know that we still have Illinois State at home, but that is on senior night and I don't think Jeremy goes out on a down note.

I'd take winning the rest of the home games and beating Drake for sure. ISU Red is very, very tough but hopefully Jeremy puts us on his back on Senior Night. On a side note, if ISU red makes the dance they will be an interesting team to watch to be certain.

Drake is 4-0 in the MVC at home, so that is going to be a tough game too. They're all going to be tough really.

[orangetennis]

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At this time last year, could you see last year's team doing what it did?

Actually, yes. I mean, I wouldn't have predicted it, but last year's team was a more veteran squad with more athletes and scoring ability. The D was there but guys were just getting used to new roles offensively. The potential was there, they were just underachieving to that point. This year's team is very young, still struggling to master things defensively and offensively it is a work-in-progress, at best.

[orangetennis]

Re: 20 Wins

Dahl 2.3 PPG in 9 games at 6.4 MPG vs Freidman .6 PPG in 19 games at 8.9 mpg. Dahl fg% 50% FT% 37.5% Freidman FG% 38.5 FT% 20%...

Ted only plays over Dahl due to defense

[Pantherlope2019]

Re: 20 Wins

Ted only plays over Dahl due to defense

This staff has a limited budget and almost never recruits the inner cities, junior colleges, or prep schools. I'm sure they view those kids as an academic risk. The staff were all guards in their playing days. They don't develop the bigs very well at all. I would tell you not to hold your breathe when it comes to making the NCAA. It's going to take in the range of 3-6 years before we get to the Dance. Of course that would be assuming Coach Jake sticks around that long... Now, next season the NIT is in play. Maybe a 7-8 seed, but I would say the new recruits (Phyfe/new 3 guard) need to be ready to contribute out of the gate...

[UNIGrainer]

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This staff has a limited budget and almost never recruits the inner cities, junior colleges, or prep schools. I'm sure they view those kids as an academic risk. The staff were all guards in their playing days. They don't develop the bigs very well at all.I would tell you not to hold your breathe when it comes to making the NCAA. It's going to take in the range of 3-6 years before we get to the Dance. Of course that would be assuming Coach Jake sticks around that long... Now, next season the NIT is in play. Maybe a 7-8 seed, but I would say the new recruits (Phyfe/new 3 guard) need to be ready to contribute out of the gate...

Seth Tuttle, Marvin Singleton, Nate Buss, Jake Koch, Lucas O'Rear, Jordan Egg, Adam Koch, Eric Colman, and Grant Stout would probably disagree.