UNI MBB offseason thread

[06panther10]

Worth noting that Texas A&M fired their coach this week after 8 years and 2 NCAA apperances with 2 S16’s (ugh...).

Whether Jake turned them down or they chose Kennedy over him, who knows, but I doubt he regrets that decision. He has virtually unlimited job security and a $1mm salary at UNI. Hopefully he retires here and we have many, many more memorable games and winning seasons.

[InterludePanther]

I can respect this.

Only disagreement, The people that are paying Jake's salary are all in. They love the guy and he's earned every dime. This money isn't money that's coming from the a single ticket sold or donation made. Short of a giant scandal (most unlikely thing ever) or a true Lowery style cratering (also unlikely) he's going to be here for the next 20 years. There are going to be some valleys ( pun not intended).

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In a vacuum your points are true. However. even if the people paying Jake’s salary are happy and the money is not coming from general athletics fund it is POTENTIAL money from donors that can’t be given for other reasons. It’s money spent and they’ll be less likely to give to other endeavors (facilities, etc) because of how much money they have invested in our 41-49 coach.

[GonzoCat]

So I was listening to the "On UNI Podcast" this afternoon, if you haven't listened I highly recommend it. Great insight from Cole Bair and Nick Petaros, the Gazette and Courier UNI beat writers respectively. Well, Cole dropped a bit of a bombshell that pertains to something that has been discussed at length on Panther Nation. He stated that when he was discussing the new offense with Seth Tuttle and Eric Crawford for his article, Seth told him the original offense is designed for TWO POST PLAYERS! That it takes on a whole new shape with 2 post players because there is way more activity and movement.

No that can't be, I was told that if we ever played our lone post player at the same time as our high post player, even for one series to try it out it would be the end of civilization as we know it. No one in the MVC ever plays two tall players at the same time!

[run&blade]

there is a lot of talent on that roster.

The definition of that is at an all time low.

[run&blade]

No that can't be, I was told that if we ever played our lone post player at the same time as our high post player, even for one series to try it out it would be the end of civilization as we know it. No one in the MVC ever plays two tall players at the same time!

It’s like crossing the streams in Ghostbusters.

[sivert]

Your thoughts are fair but I just feel like when Jake’s salary went up fans weren’t allowed to raise expectations. He’s the HIGHEST paid coach in the league. We don’t pay him to “play meaningful games in Feb-March” in the 14th best league in the country with no teams higher than 130 in the NET rankings. If we let him walk in 2016 we could pay someone $400,000 (Hogan, Green, DeVries) to go 41-49. That’s people’s frustrations...and they’re fair.

We pay Jake the big bucks because when he gets the right players, he can make serious noise.
Been close on some high recruits. I’m watching ISU-vs-Kansas now. Tyrese Halliburton would have looked good in purple.

[CyCarp]

In a vacuum your points are true. However. even if the people paying Jake’s salary are happy and the money is not coming from general athletics fund it is POTENTIAL money from donors that can’t be given for other reasons. It’s money spent and they’ll be less likely to give to other endeavors (facilities, etc) because of how much money they have invested in our 41-49 coach.

I'm not so sure on this. If people are giving tens of thousands of dollars for Jake's salary, I'm sure they're donating plenty to UNI in other ways as well.

[InterludePanther]

We pay Jake the big bucks because when he gets the right players, he can make serious noise.
Been close on some high recruits. I’m watching ISU-vs-Kansas now. Tyrese Halliburton would have looked good in purple.

Unfortunately in recruiting you’re either first or last.

[Wxcpanther]

No that can't be, I was told that if we ever played our lone post player at the same time as our high post player, even for one series to try it out it would be the end of civilization as we know it. No one in the MVC ever plays two tall players at the same time!

Believe it or not, I hold way more stock in the statements of people who are actually on the coaching staff as opposed to individuals on a message board who don't even show their identity. We went with the information we had, had only seen the offense with one true post. Essentially Tut said it was a lack of post depth this year which forced that, which we all kinda figured. If a guy on the bench is saying it would work, I'm gonna take that way more seriously than people with cat, blade, or Mudra in their name

[UNIChippewa]

Worth noting that Texas A&M fired their coach this week after 8 years and 2 NCAA apperances with 2 S16’s (ugh...).

Whether Jake turned them down or they chose Kennedy over him, who knows, but I doubt he regrets that decision. He has virtually unlimited job security and a $1mm salary at UNI. Hopefully he retires here and we have many, many more memorable games and winning seasons.

I know A&M had a crappy year, but for crying out loud they made the Sweet 16 last year, and kicked North Carolina's a$$ to do it, at a school where the two biggest sports are football and spring football.

That firing is nonsensical to me. But you're right, I doubt that Coach Jake has second thoughts about that.

[GhostOfRedeker]

ALSO: Why the heck do I get a "invalid URL" when I try to post. I put the website below because it was the only way it would allow me to post. Odd?

Anybody have an answer to this? I keep getting the same thing.

[SteinPizza]

We pay Jake the big bucks because when he gets the right players, he can make serious noise..

But, that’s the staff’s biggest job. Get the right players. Recruiting is 1A and 1B in how to win.

[sivert]

But, that’s the staff’s biggest job. Get the right players. Recruiting is 1A and 1B in how to win.

I hear this from time to time. It’s like nature-vs-nurture. Not sure it’s resolvable. And I’m not disputing that recruiting is VERY important.
In the NBA games I’ve seen over the last several years, I hear names like Sharon Collins, Xavier Henry, Cole Aldrich, etc. Not one of our squad from 2010 made the NBA.
And yet Coach Jake got two wins in the dance that year and nearly a third. Coaching beat recruiting in those games. Period.

The bigger issue is that while we can keep our coaching at a high level, there are issues like prestige, facilities, perks, and cheating that make recruiting at the P5 level frankly not possible. You just can’t make it happen. So even if recruiting is more important than coaching, which I don’t think so, coaching is the factor you can pay for

[UNIGrainer]

So I was listening to the "On UNI Podcast" this afternoon, if you haven't listened I highly recommend it. Great insight from Cole Bair and Nick Petaros, the Gazette and Courier UNI beat writers respectively. Well, Cole dropped a bit of a bombshell that pertains to something that has been discussed at length on Panther Nation. He stated that when he was discussing the new offense with Seth Tuttle and Eric Crawford for his article, Seth told him the original offense is designed for TWO POST PLAYERS! That it takes on a whole new shape with 2 post players because there is way more activity and movement. That's huge! If that's the case, I'd imagine the rotation looks like this.

starting 5:
Austin
Luke
Isaiah
Trae
AJ

Bench:
Tray (Croft), JD, Biggie (maybe Cole overtakes Biggie for this spot?), Spence, and Carter.

there is a lot of talent on that roster.

Wait, there's a UNI podcast? I feel like you buried the lead there.

[run&blade]

I know A&M had a crappy year, but for crying out loud they made the Sweet 16 last year, and kicked North Carolina's a$$ to do it, at a school where the two biggest sports are football and spring football.

That firing is nonsensical to me. But you're right, I doubt that Coach Jake has second thoughts about that.

If the big donors say it’s time that is pretty much the end of the discussion.