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[UNIAlum95]

Man, this thread is making me feel really old. I lived in Bartlett back in the early '90's when Campbell was a ladies only dorm.

How about the change to Shull and Rider as co-ed dorms?

[Born-a-Panther]

I lived in Campbell for three years and loved it! The community there was fantastic. I know this isn't a popular opinion, but I think traditional dorms with communal bathrooms are better than fancy suite+style dorms. Students benefit from affordable housing and a strong community. Unfortunately it's not what incoming freshmen think they want.

My experience was probably tainted a bit. At the time I lived there, the first floor was girls only, and that's where I got stuck. There was also a lot of construction going on and I had to walk by construction workers constantly just to get to and from the showers. It was uncomfortable. Internet at the time wasn't great so I had no Internet quite often. This was 2003 so... quite a while ago.

[UNIChippewa]

How about the change to Shull and Rider as co-ed dorms?

You're not making me feel any younger

When I went to school those two places were the big party dorms, most definitely because they were guys only. I had some high school friends who lived in Rider and I spent some time in those halls getting the college experience. Ah...good times.

[skydog0784]

Since we’re reminiscing about Campbell Hall, I worked in Campbell dorm food service when it was an all female dorm in the early 80’s.

I can’t say the work was that great but it was quite pleasing to the eye!

[in_the_stands]

How about the change to Shull and Rider as co-ed dorms?

Heh. That caught me by surprise a few years ago. I've occasionally wandered the halls in Rider to reminisce when visiting campus. Last time I did I was thinking "lot of girls in here today", then saw one go into the bathroom. That only used to happen at parties. Then I saw a bulletin board with pics of the house officers, and that's when I figured it out

['70 Grad]

Former Shull Hall house & dorm president here. Hagemann was just being finished when I arrived on campus. Noehren & the towers were being built. Did you know that when Shull was opened (before my time) that it was ALL freshmen? No upperclassmen to tell the new knuckleheads that tests & finals needed to be studied for! Heard it was a disaster and lasted only one year.

Had lots of fun surfing in the halls & tug-of-war matches between floors (rope going down the stairwell). Lounge windows open for yelling contests. "Rider Sucks!, etc." When I was a senior, we actually got phones in our rooms - not just 3 in the hallway per house.

[iron panther]

I still cant believe i made it a whole year being tripled in shull without killing my roommates. Still friends with them to this day!

[A Fan In Lean Years]

It's also realizing that getting a degree doesn't automatically get you a better job these days. As someone growing up in the early 00s and 10s, I and everyone else my age was told "Just get a degree and you're set." Whether or not that was ever true, I don't know, but it definitely isn't now. So now people are looking at degrees that are more promising job-wise, which, frankly, just don't exist at UNI as plentiful as it does at Iowa or ISU. I'm sure there's reasons why that I'm just ignorant of, but I'm very confused as to why UNI doesn't offer more STEM degrees. It's "STEM" and "Other" for degrees, these days.

That's why the cutting edge, work ready educations today come from community colleges. Only takes 1-2 years, and you have training in a high demand field.

[A Fan In Lean Years]

Hopefully the tenured doofuses get their heads out of their rears and wake up to the new reality.

Well, those folks you call, "doofuses" probably know more than you and I combined. Tenure also exists for a reason, which few people, including the fascist in our State legislature that always tries to get rid of it, can tell you why it exists.

Some food for thought.

[A Fan In Lean Years]

Good to hear Nook is trying. I’m an old M.T. grad and felt there was so much potential in that program. My personal opinion is that the school develop an apprenticeship program with Deere to help drive targeted employees for Deere, as well as curriculum/education for the school/students. I’m positive other area businesses would jump on board to something like this as well..especially now with knowledgeable personnel hard to come by. I know Hawkeye has entry level apprenticeship programs for machining. Why can’t they set something similar up for engineering, supervising, or technical positions? I could care less about the degree’s “title”, and I’m sure the students would agree if that meant they could get a leg up on a career following school.

Easier said than done, I’m sure!

As I said before, community colleges are the ones doing these partnerships. One that I know of has the John Deere program already cornered. They can also get their employees in 1-2 years and not 4.

[UNIpanther99]

Well, those folks you call, "doofuses" probably know more than you and I combined. Tenure also exists for a reason, which few people, including the fascist in our State legislature that always tries to get rid of it, can tell you why it exists.

Some food for thought.

I was being flippant. I support tenure, but it sometimes creates a culture that is resistant to change. That was my point.

[EVSPanther]

As I said before, community colleges are the ones doing these partnerships. One that I know of has the John Deere program already cornered. They can also get their employees in 1-2 years and not 4.

I know of the programs you are referring. However, there would be a good market for entry engineering positions (robotics, programming, ME, IE, etc). CC’s have a great avenue for entry machinist and/or apprentice, but there isn’t such an avenue for entry engineering positions. I think you could even partner with CC’s for an engineering path on the back end of their machinist degrees. There is room there to explore. And we have plenty more businesses than just Deere to help drive it.

[Neighbor]

I know of the programs you are referring. However, there would be a good market for entry engineering positions (robotics, programming, ME, IE, etc). CC’s have a great avenue for entry machinist and/or apprentice, but there isn’t such an avenue for entry engineering positions. I think you could even partner with CC’s for an engineering path on the back end of their machinist degrees. There is room there to explore. And we have plenty more businesses than just Deere to help drive it.

Quoted for accuracy. There's a big void between running the front office and running the CNC machines in back. (many of those programmers make $100,000)

[Big Cats]

Since both Iowa and Iowa State already have a College of Engineering, the Board of Regents would most likely not allow UNI to have it's own program. They would call it "duplication of services" and deny the program's start-up.

[UNIAlum95]

Since both Iowa and Iowa State already have a College of Engineering, the Board of Regents would most likely not allow UNI to have it's own program. They would call it "duplication of services" and deny the program's start-up.

This is still true today. Until recently UNI hasn't been allowed to have engineering in program titles. We are now offering Electrical Engineering Technology, Manufacturing Engineering Technology, and are working on a Masters of Systems Engineering program that will hopefully allow the STEM programs to grow. Combined with a name change from the Department of Technology to something reflecting engineering technology and I am optimistic about creating a growing department within UNI. If the Technology department continues to grow and we can get other departments to work together (i.e. Math, Physics, Computer Science), you could create an Engineering Sciences college that could attract students to the school.