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  • Originally posted by MVCBeat View Post

    Everyone isn't saying it. Just the people on this message board.

    When you all started talking about it, I didn't think it was correct, but it made me reconsider. So I checked with a G5 NCAA head of compliance to see if my understanding was wrong. He confirmed that what I was saying was accurate.
    Then nobody knows because UNI compliance says he does from everyone I've talked to.

    Maybe the NCAA making this decision had unintended consequences that they should have maybe thought through first.

    Again, moot point. He's not using it so it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

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    • Originally posted by BCPanther View Post
      I don't know how many different sources have to tell you that he's got two more years.

      Medical Hardship Waivers are their own separate world, they are not a redshirt in any way. It's a waiver to have your eligibility extended due to the loss of a season due to documented medical hardship. More simply, the medical hardship waiver extends his clock to 6 years instead of 5.

      He did not opt out of 2020-21, he lost the year due a documented medical hardship so he gets the extension of his eligibility clock to 6 years. The COVID year does not count as you, rightly, stated that eligibility was paused for that year so it's as if no one played a single game that year. Therefore, he gets to use what would hypothetically be his 5th season of play during the Medical Hardship 6th Year.

      2018-19-Year 1-Freshman Season of Eligibility
      2019-20-Year 2-Sophomore Season of Eligibility
      2020-21-Year 3-No Eligibility Season Exhausted
      2021-22-Year 4-Junior Season of Eligibility
      2022-23-Year 5-Senior Season of Eligibility
      2023-24-Year 6-Super Senior Season of Eligibility extended from COVID Year, Medical Hardship Waiver allows extension on Eligibility Clock

      Anderson is a totally different case in that they either didn't try or didn't find a doctor to certify the medical hardship. It would have worked the exact same way for him if there was a documented medical hardship.

      I get that AJ is an exceedingly rare case on this but that's how it works. That's how Jalen Coleman-Lands got a SEVENTH year at Kansas this year.

      Again, there is almost no chance he uses 2023-24 but it is technically available to him.
      That is simply not correct. I am not trying to start a p***ing contest. But that isn't true. Everyone still gets four years of eligibility and five years to do it. It is just that 20-21 simply doesn't count. Its a free pass that you could choose to use or not. They didn't give everyone five years of eligibility, they basically said "everyone can play this year if they want....it doesn't count against your eligibility".

      Lands got a seventh year BECAUSE he played in 20-21, and that year didn't count. He took a standard redshirt in 17-18, and got an extra year of eligibility due to having a medical redshirt from 18-19.

      So for Coleman-Lands

      15-16: Year 1 of Eligibility
      16-17: Year 2 of Eligibility
      17-18: Standard Redshirt (2 years of eligibility remain)
      18-19: Medical Redshirt (2 years of eligibility remain)
      19-20: Year 3 of Eligibility
      20-21: COVID YEAR- He played this year, but no one lost a year of eligibility from this year because everyone was on pause.
      21-22: Year 4 of Eligibility


      For AJ:
      18-19: Year 1 of Eligibility
      19-20: Year 2 of Eligibility
      20-21: COVID YEAR- He did not play, but everyone was on pause. He did not retain this year of eligibility as a fifth year, but does retain a redshirt he did not have to use.
      21-22: Year 3 of Eligibility

      AJ could still technically play three years from now if he redshirted this year and took a medical redshirt next year due to a documented injury. He could play in two years just taking a normal redshirt. But he can only actually play one more season.

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      • I'll drop it. It's not happening either way.

        It was flatly ridiculous that the NCAA made that decision anyway. Sometimes life isn't fair and it ROYALLY screws over 3 high school classes.

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        • Isaiah Mosley to the Portal.

          The league has been decimated. I hate this.

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          • Originally posted by BCPanther View Post
            Isaiah Mosley to the Portal.

            The league has been decimated. I hate this.
            Yup. Basically the all MVC team is gone. Brutal and dumb

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            • Originally posted by DownGoesKansas View Post

              Yup. Basically the all MVC team is gone. Brutal and dumb
              Not basically. The whole first team and 2 off the 2nd team lol

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              • and Tyreke Key, who would have almost certainly been First Team, if not for injury.

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                • Add in what I think was the entire Murray starting 5.

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                  • MVC is no longer a Mid-Major. They are now a Major Minor League for recruiting. I hate what the Portal is doing. It proves the league has/had some great talent that was ofter looked by the NCAA , sports fans and media. Look at some of the schools the players have transferred too or even still being contacted by.

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                    • Originally posted by BCPanther View Post
                      Isaiah Mosley to the Portal.

                      The league has been decimated. I hate this.
                      Agreed. The thing about Mosely…Missouri State has some monied people behind them, right? They’re not going to compete with an ACC or SEC school, but you’d think of all the MVC teams, they’d be the most likely to have their act together on NIL, and some $ to back it up. You’d guess they could at least come with something to respond to a six figure offer from a P6 school, as opposed to being at $0. Am I being too optimistic in their case?

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                      • I wonder how many players who are in the portal will end up back at their original team?

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                        • Originally posted by 1994grad View Post
                          I wonder how many players who are in the portal will end up back at their original team?
                          Some will come back, but in our case Green will be at NOVA/Duke or in the pros at some level. Maybe, he winds up with Coach Nurse and the Raptors?

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                          • Originally posted by 1994grad View Post
                            I wonder how many players who are in the portal will end up back at their original team?
                            So far I think its around like 20 of 1600 or so

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                            • The big advantage is pure shooting for Green. Many NBA teams want a guy that can hit timely threes late. His liability of a hip injury would be less of an issue when he demonstrates the stand still shooting. So, I will assume he's going to get picked in the pros as undrafted free agent. There's no reason to think otherwise for now.

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                              • Originally posted by BrockLesnar View Post
                                The big advantage is pure shooting for Green. Many NBA teams want a guy that can hit timely threes late. His liability of a hip injury would be less of an issue when he demonstrates the stand still shooting. So, I will assume he's going to get picked in the pros as undrafted free agent. There's no reason to think otherwise for now.
                                I'm certain he would get the opportunity to play in the G League, but is that better than going to Duke? I'm honestly not sure, the money at Duke could easily be better though.
                                To avoid confusion - my username is baseball (Cy Young award) related, NOT for the Cyclones.

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