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  • Drake is just imposing their will on Mizzou. Funny how all the Mizzou fans on their board or melting down--they should realize they did this to basically every team all season long. We get it.

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    • Originally posted by Fran McCrabby View Post
      I'm watching the drake tournament game and what stands out to me is the emotion the drake players play with. There boarder line cocky and complaining. I personally don't care for that, but maybe we need a little more of that on our team. It makes me think about when we had Lucas O'Rear. Our team is almost to nice. We could use a Lucas next year on this team. Rebounding isn't great on this team neither.
      The ascendancy of Drake is kindling of shocking. They went from beyond horrible to the top of the league, even after losing their coach and star players. It’s really impressive and tbh I’m jealous. They’re going in the opposite direction of UNI.

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      • Drake game looking like one of our meltdowns now.

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        • Originally posted by QCPanther05 View Post

          The ascendancy of Drake is kindling of shocking. They went from beyond horrible to the top of the league, even after losing their coach and star players. It’s really impressive and tbh I’m jealous. They’re going in the opposite direction of UNI.
          That's a little much.... We're not bottom dwellers in the league. We were in the race for the league title

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          • Missouri valley supremacy

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            • Originally posted by QCPanther05 View Post

              The ascendancy of Drake is kindling of shocking. They went from beyond horrible to the top of the league, even after losing their coach and star players. It’s really impressive and tbh I’m jealous. They’re going in the opposite direction of UNI.
              We are still doing pretty darn well all things considered. Don't get me wrong, though. I want to get back to the tournament. We also have to remember that Drake is devoting all of their resources to basketball essentially. They are functioning like a Big East team in the Missouri Valley. We are devoting a lot of resources to football and wrestling among other sports.

              Hardin has done an outstanding job identifying up and coming coaches and getting them. I think if anything, what they have done is show how valuable it is to get the stepping stone guys. Who cares if you only have a coach for a couple years if they lead you to the tournament and keep excitement built around your team?

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              • Originally posted by QCPanther05 View Post

                The ascendancy of Drake is kindling of shocking. They went from beyond horrible to the top of the league, even after losing their coach and star players. It’s really impressive and tbh I’m jealous. They’re going in the opposite direction of UNI.
                JFC. Get it together man...

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                • Originally posted by PantherAlum09 View Post


                  Hardin has done an outstanding job identifying up and coming coaches and getting them. I think if anything, what they have done is show how valuable it is to get the stepping stone guys. Who cares if you only have a coach for a couple years if they lead you to the tournament and keep excitement built around your team?
                  It wouldn’t be a big shock to start seeing Hardin’s name mentioned for higher profile AD openings. Not just the basketball hires. His department has done a nice job publicizing itself locally as well.

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                  • Originally posted by PantherAlum09 View Post

                    Who cares if you only have a coach for a couple years if they lead you to the tournament and keep excitement built around your team?
                    If you can actually maintain that every two years. Not many schools / AD's can... Drake has been able to do well very recently, but also have a string of ones that didn't get them in the tourney as well (Kanaskie, T. Davis, Medved,Giacoletti,Phelps)

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                    • Originally posted by BobCat View Post

                      If you can actually maintain that every two years. Not many schools / AD's can... Drake has been able to do well very recently, but also have a string of ones that didn't get them in the tourney as well (Kanaskie, T. Davis, Medved,Giacoletti,Phelps)
                      Yeah this is my thoughts. I think their AD is making great hires, but you can't expect that to be the results every single year. Heck, even P5 programs get new coaches and take a few steps back from time to time. Drake has just hit the jackpot two times in a row.

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                      • Originally posted by kochrab View Post

                        Yeah this is my thoughts. I think their AD is making great hires, but you can't expect that to be the results every single year. Heck, even P5 programs get new coaches and take a few steps back from time to time. Drake has just hit the jackpot two times in a row.
                        I think schools unintentionally sabotage themselves more often than not. So many schools get caught up with hiring a name or a former alumni instead of just hiring the best coach you can afford and supporting them appropriately. BobCat mentioned Medved as not getting them to the tournament, but they improved a ton when he got there and he quickly went to a bigger program at Colorado St. He did this after having steadily improved the Furman program over three years. It was a bit of a risky hire but he's from Minneapolis and Drake saw the improvements being made at a program that had been really bad when he was hired. Bob Richey took over for Medved and has improved and sustained success for Furman since then.

                        Medved took over Drake after they had a 7-24 season with 5 conference wins and turned them into a 17-17 team with 10 conference wins. That's a great hire in my opinion.

                        I think you could argue that Darian DeVries was the riskiest hire of the three because he didn't have any previous head coaching experience. His first year was really solid where they tied for first in conference, but his second season they took a dip and ended up 8th in conference. Tucker came the next season and the rest is history.

                        McCollum's numbers at the D2 level were absolutely insane. He was obviously a great coach and was just looking for the right opportunity. It's not like Drake just stumbled into something nobody else knew about. I'm sure Drake already has some names they are going to look at if McCollum decides to move on.

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                        • You know what else Drake did?

                          Doubled the budget, built top notch practice facility and renovated the Knapp (even though it still sucks).

                          They also have a well funded collective.

                          Everyone can help.

                          ThePantherCollective.com

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                          • For those who are big basketball philosophy and strategy types, Keith Murphy on Facebook shared a lengthy post from a coach who competed against Ben McCollum over several years in DII. The post explains this guy’s take on why his teams are so good. It’s detailed and was all fully on display against Missouri. Very interesting stuff on how he’s developed shooters like Mascari and Stirtz, how his point guards are able to consistently play every minute all season, etc.

                            Also, there are well sourced rumors from the Iowa side that McCollum may stay at Drake, or at least not take a job where there’s unrealistic pressure that makes the extra money not worth it. Sounds similar to Jake’s situation from a few years ago. The Iowa connected people aren’t sure what’s going to happen, but it sounds far from certain that he’s moving on after this year.

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                            • SEC had 6 teams in the tournament that were under 500 in conference. They went 1-5. Might be something for the committee to think about before they go putting 6-12 teams instead of a top mid-major, next time.
                              "My role is to lead, plain and simple. . . .I with the help of my staff and our administration, we will lead." --Ben Jacobson

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                              • Originally posted by domedays View Post
                                SEC had 6 teams in the tournament that were under 500 in conference. They went 1-5. Might be something for the committee to think about before they go putting 6-12 teams instead of a top mid-major, next time.
                                Bingo. I want to reward teams for winning, not losing.

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