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  • #31
    Originally posted by Coachdags View Post
    MSU gets in NCAA....UNI gets in NIT

    MSU gets in NIT......UNI stays home

    SIMPLE
    I'm not sure its that simple on the first part, we could be bumped by some guarantee teams (SWAC, MEAC, ...)

    Second part I think is true if they get left out of the Dance again and not bumped out.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Coachdags View Post
      not enough room this year with new format
      Why is that? We are still talking about 2 teams that are in the top 80 RPI. At-larges will be selected from the same group that will be given NIT at-larges. Is there anything you have read that says they won't allow more than 2 teams from a single conference? (honest question)
      The Lord reigns, let the earth be glad; let the distant shores rejoice, clouds and thick darkness surround Him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne. Fire goes before Him, and consumes his foes on every side; His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles; the mountains melt like wax before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim His righteousness and all peoples will see His glory.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Panthers to the Bone View Post
        Why is that? We are still talking about 2 teams that are in the top 80 RPI. At-larges will be selected from the same group that will be given NIT at-larges. Is there anything you have read that says they won't allow more than 2 teams from a single conference? (honest question)
        No nothing is in the formula, but In visiting with both Mac and Jake, they feel that the Valley will only get possibly 5 Total hopefully 3 NCAA and 2 NIT.

        It could happen the other way 2 NCAA and 3 NIT but they feel doubt full. It will all depend on auto quailifiers and what is left to the committee to decide, I would not feel safe betting on 3 MVC teams in the NIT.

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        • #34
          I agree. I feel safer with 3 in the Big Dance. I just didn't know if there was a change to the criteria that I didn't see/hear about. Thanks for clearing that up!
          The Lord reigns, let the earth be glad; let the distant shores rejoice, clouds and thick darkness surround Him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne. Fire goes before Him, and consumes his foes on every side; His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles; the mountains melt like wax before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim His righteousness and all peoples will see His glory.

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          • #35
            I think that MSU is going to get in. I think that they are Lunardi's "Last Minute Surprise"...

            That puts us #2 in Valley pecking order in the NIT, which is a pretty good place to be...

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            • #36
              If they don't get in, leaving the Valley with 2 bids, there should be an investigation.

              TWO bids, while the freaking COLONIAL and Mountain West get THREE? Sorry, no way.

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              • #37
                I am agreeing with you WAY TOO MUCH lately Newsy...

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Brett Crawford View Post
                  I am agreeing with you WAY TOO MUCH lately Newsy...

                  Great minds?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Newsbreaker View Post
                    Great minds?

                    That's gotta be it...

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                    • #40
                      When we were discussing this....It was brought up that the Valley had seem to have the RPI Index figured out and using it to its advantage...?

                      So the committee's were not putting as much weight on RPI in some of there discussions....

                      You just have to look at MSU last year and realize this maybe true. Sad , but true, you have a formula it should be followed... But I do not trust the NCAA or the Money hungry CBS Sports


                      P.S. U-Conn or UNI for NIT...? I do not feel safe leaving that up to a committee decision.
                      Last edited by Coachdags; 03-08-2007, 05:21 PM.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Brett Crawford View Post
                        That's gotta be it...
                        ya know, think alike?

                        I would've went with but that's just me.

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                        • #42
                          I know what you meant, I was questioning my own sanity....

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                          • #43
                            I think with the number of bubbles popping yesterday that MoState is almost certainly in now. I really believe that Bradley may also get a good look. A lot happened yesterday, particulary in the ACC, but also others. Air Force, Stanford, West Virginia, ...

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                            • #44
                              Bradley should DEFINATELY get a good look, maybe so just as much, if not more than Missouri St.

                              In regards to 2317's earlier posts, you put a lot of weight on RPI. I've heard MANY selection committee people on tv in the past week that have claimed that RPI is a great organizational tool but USUALLY doesn't even come up in selecting teams to the tournament.

                              Now, I realize that it's kind of unfair, I don't like how you can use the RPI to either help you, hurt you, or not use it at all, all in different circumstances. If you're going to use it, use it. However the argument about top 40 RPI teams with 20 wins getting left out doesn't really hold much weight when considering the fact that the selection committee doesn't really even look into RPI.

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                              • #45
                                jman...if RPI doesn't matter...then why can I go to the past year's RPI charts and see almost every school in the Top 40 IN the NCAA's every year? They can say what they want all day long...the truth is...the RPI matters when the committee members WANT IT TO MATTER. When the committee started saying things like, "It's a great organizational tool, but it doesn't even come up when discussing teams." is when teams from the Colonial and Missouri Valley started consistently being in the Top 40.
                                "10% of life is what happens to you, 90% is how you react to what happens."

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