I would like to set a couple things straight.

[UNI05Alum]

Re: I would like to set a couple things straight.

To recap: Jacobsen is a young, unproven coach. He has an All-Conference Center who has started nearly every game for 3 years. Most of the team is extremely young. He benches the All-Conference Senior player to start games. Fans are upset. The team has looked sluggish many times out of the gate.

From here on out: Fans need to voice their displeasure with this ludicrous move. Honestly, this is an asanine move by a (LET ME REPEAT MYSELF) YOUNG, UNPROVEN COACH. Aforementioned young, unproven coach needs to get his head out of his azz and play his BEST starting five. We have a team that can and should challenge to win its conference. With a guard-oriented conference, it would be a huge positive to play 3 capable big men at a time. Why Jacobsen insists on playing Koch as an inside player is beyond many fans as well. He is a good combo 3-4, but NOT an inside threat. Play him on the wing more and start both Centers. This would present matchup problems around the league. Our guards are not as good as other teams'; so why do we insist on starting 3 of them? Use what you've got! We have 3 solid post players. USE THEM! I suppose that McMoney should have started Ben Jacobson on the bench his senior year too? And Stout, who needed him last season!?!? START ERIC COLEMAN!


Disclaimer: I am not a huge Eric Coleman fan in general; in fact, I have little personal respect for him. I do however, respect his skills on the basketball court.

[clenz]

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Look, UNI hired Coach Jake to do a job. Let him do it.

How are are we stopping him from doing what he wants? He still makes very move he wants. I don't see the point there.

I have no problem with you thinking that you can do it better.

You do seem to have a problem with it. You tend to disagree with everything we say and just just as upset with someone with a different opinion as we do; which you give us hell about by the way.

Discuss what you think he's doing wrong...that's fine, but don't assume changes are going to be made and don't flip out when someone defends the coach.

We are discussing what we we think, and getting more or less called lesser fans for it. I don't think anyone here expects Jake to read this and do what we want. We aren't dumb, contrary to what you may believe.

I get so sick and tired of boards blowing up with hate when a team loses. Hell, we're already to the point on this board where people complain about things after a win if the game didn't go like they thought it should.

I guess because we win nothing went wrong? Nothing needs to be fixed? Good theory. Just because we discuss our displeasure, which by the way you told us you had no problem with, means we aren't happy we won? Good theory.

Please...if you were the much an expert...you'd be on ESPN as an Analyst.

Do you watch ESPN? If so you would realize their "experts" suck something horrible...in all sports.

Support the team, support the coaches and changes will be made after the season if the people who make changes think that they should be made. Discuss during...but don't think that sweeping changes will come during a season. And if they do...it's almost NEVER for the better. It sets programs BACK years.

I'm pretty sure everyone here supports the team and the coaches, we all want them to do well. It's almost like you are questioning our fan hood, if you will, with every post. I don't get it. Again you bring up the talking about what we think should be changed, but yet when we do so we are lesser fans. It is an oxymoron statement coming from you almost.

It's great that changes will be made after the season, but what if they need to be made during the season? Then what?

[GonzoCat]

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I also have news for all you tax payers it will be the AD & the big money boosters that determine if a coach gets removed more than anything else, ask old coach Dan formerly of ISU.

Wait, UNI has big money boosters?

Well okay, we have had a couple I guess, but I don't think they really follow the sports programs at UNI very closely.

[FuturePanther09]

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What about some sign ideas for the next home game. Let me know if I've got any winners, Griff:

"Eric Coleman
Says
Play me
Now!"

"6th on the roster,
1st in my heart."

"EC, even though you are being
uSed
exPerimentally
as a sixth maN... you'll
always be a starter 2 me."


2317 could hold this one...
"At lEast
our Subs
imProve the
liNeup."

HAHAHA those are all awesome! since i cant make it to the game hopefully ill see some of those cross my TV!

[clenz]

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Gee we have what 1 loss in the MVC and some of you want to fire Jake ? Get real ! I also have news for all you tax payers it will be the AD & the big money boosters that determine if a coach gets removed more than anything else, ask old coach Dan formerly of ISU. Coaches all make mistakes, live with it, and move on to the next game !

Who here is calling for Jake to be fired?

I've never stated that people shouldn't be able to state their thoughts. But if this is a place where people can voice their opinions, then why can't I have mine? Why can't I defend a player/coach/administrator without being told that "this is a message board"? It seems that you people want to be able to post anything without someone disagreeing with you. If you truly believe that anyone can post anything, then why do freak out so much when someone posts something contrary to your post. It's all just healthy discussion. Believe me, I don't like the negativity...but I like to see it here...it gives me a chance to post something to contradict it.

I pose the same questions to you. If you have no problem with us talking about it why do you get so defensive about our stances?

Also, the only thing I have to argue with on this topic is this: Is it more important to have your 5 most solid guys on the floor in the first 2 minutes or the last two minutes of a basketball game? Starting doesn't matter to anyone except the people who love to hear Bob Justis call out names. (no offense Bob, I love to hear you call out names...I just don't care what 5 it is).

The last 5, but why can't the best players start the game. Get the team off to a good start? Are players not allowed to start AND finish games now? I guess that is a new rule I missed.

[clenz]

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I never meant this thread to turn into this. I was more than serious in my first post, but apparently I'm not allowed to be serious on this board anymore. I guess I cried wolf, or in this case Coleman, too many times. Sorry guys.

[JayJ79]

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Basketball fans on this message board are funny.
I don't really follow the bball talk all that much (because frankly, I'm just not into basketball), but I'll read a thread now and then.

Last year (and perhaps previous years), there were people who were convinced that anything that went wrong was Brooks McKowen's fault (and there were people who were diehard Brooks defenders). Oddly enough, now that Brooks is gone, the team has lots of trouble finding a point guard that works (and doesn't get hurt).

Not that this really has much to do with your post, I just felt like sharing.

[UNI05Alum]

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Note about your disclaimer: So...now you think because you've admitted that you don't even like the guy, that we shoudl all go, "Oh...well now I agree with you!" Now you're ripping the character of a 22 year old college kid (when you yourself are a college kid...how would you like it if there was a message board where people ripped on you after you did poorly on a test?) on a message board...nice.

I don't have a clue how Mr. Coleman does in the classroom. I just don't think he portrays himself very well in public settings. That's it.

[Purple Reign]

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How 'bout all this fog. Some winter so far huh?


PR

[DancerHall Cat]

Re: I would like to set a couple things straight.

Also, the only thing I have to argue with on this topic is this: Is it more important to have your 5 most solid guys on the floor in the first 2 minutes or the last two minutes of a basketball game?

It is possible for a player to BOTH start the game, and play the last 2 minutes of the game.

[Marc Wigim]

Re: I would like to set a couple things straight.

Also, the only thing I have to argue with on this topic is this: Is it more important to have your 5 most solid guys on the floor in the first 2 minutes or the last two minutes of a basketball game? Starting doesn't matter to anyone except the people who love to hear Bob Justis call out names. (no offense Bob, I love to hear you call out names...I just don't care what 5 it is).

This is the point I have been trying to make to anyone who will listen. There are numerous examples in basketball annals of the best five guys not always being starters. I would like to remind everyone that John Little spent his entire career coming off of the bench (save for when Erik Crawford got injured) and I defy anyone that says that he wasn't one of the best we had when he was playing.

I love college basketball, but one of the biggest gripes I have about it is that everyone seems to be an armchair coach. It's far more rampant in hoops than in any other sport I can think of.

[01PantherFan]

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Well considering most of us on here are taxpaying citizens of Iowa, why shouldn't we get to dictate policy a little? Jacobson is dribbling this one down his leg, and it's getting ridiculous. What happened to the good old days when the best 5 players were on the court to start the game; period?? We don't have a PG, Koch is NOT a great post player, so why not use what we've got and focus on being 'big' instead of starting Dunham/Brown/etc.?? Put Koch, Egleseder and Coleman ALL in the starting lineup. Enough is enough.

?? at 10-4 thats a blown season so far ?? I kinda bet the 7-8 Hawkeyes would love to be 10-4 right now along with many other teams.

Yep better fire Jake so you can take his job.

Its a young team and makes young mistakes, you can have a great coaching plan but it still comes down to the players executing that plan.

[jman2004]

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This is the point I have been trying to make to anyone who will listen. There are numerous examples in basketball annals of the best five guys not always being starters. I would like to remind everyone that John Little spent his entire career coming off of the bench (save for when Erik Crawford got injured) and I defy anyone that says that he wasn't one of the best we had when he was playing.

I love college basketball, but one of the biggest gripes I have about it is that everyone seems to be an armchair coach. It's far more rampant in hoops than in any other sport I can think of.

Well I just got back from Vegas (lost money on the Panthers this weekend AND was delayed because of fog and had to stay another day) so I'm getting caught up on the board.

I am getting so frustrated with the excuse "the best 5 players need to be on the court when it matters, not when the game starts." That's been discussed and it needs to no longer be used. No one is arguing it. Coleman should start and he could still get breaks to remain fresh in the end of games.

I also find it funny how posters like 2317 spend more time DEFENDING Coach Jake's decision than they do actually giving any evidence to support "their" opinion. Can some of you not admit that YES, Coleman could still start, AND receive extra breaks to remain fresh in the end of the game?

[Purple Reign]

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Here's a thought. Let's stop introducing the starters and instead introduce the finishers.

Yup-----sure been foggy !!!!!


PR

[Back2BackCats]

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Not that it really makes any difference and I'm not supporting either side but a couple of years ago didn't the sixth man at UNC goes as the 5th pick in the draft.