I would like to set a couple things straight.

[TommyT]

Re: I would like to set a couple things straight.

Is it just me or has every thread about men's basketball reverted back to the Eric Coleman starting and Coach Jake's decision making? Are we 10-4? Yes! Could we be 13-1? Yes! Could we be 8-6? Yes! Let's all agree that we are not going to be happy about EC not starting and move forward. Let's agree that we will be posting about Coach Jake's decisions after every game this season, because that's what this board is for. We have Illinois St right now. Let's move forward! Go Panthers!

[Matt Trump]

Re: I would like to set a couple things straight.

I'm still confused and looking for any post on this board saying that Jake should be canned. Kinda funny that those getting upset for critical posts are accusing others of calling for the coaches head, when no one is.

[clenz]

Re: I would like to set a couple things straight.

I'm beginning to feel that someone has a 2317 crush...and I'm a little scared.

I don't even have the effort to quote someone 173 times in one reply. Kudos to clenz for having all the time in the world to argue. Wish I had more.


One thing though...because I'd like you to stop banging your head against a brick wall. I don't think everything went well in a win. I'm a former coach. I was never satisfied. No coach is. They always see things to work on. And they do, they work on them endlessly with their players in practice. They work on them with their staff tirelessly. So, when kids like you whine and complain and smoething you didn't like about the game...it pisses me off because you have no idea how much it pains the coaches and players because they see it too...and it's their job to figure out how to correct it. They get fired over it from time to time. It causes pain in their personal lives. So when a punk on a message board complains...it means nothing to me...because it doesn't affect your life other than for a few hours. It's these guys' lives.

I'm sure you think I'm off my rocker, but that's part of the reason guys like you annoy me. Do you really think they're not working on the very mistakes that you see? I'm done. Have a good night and most importantly...GO PANTHERS!!!

A crush? Hardly, I'm not gay and I'm engaged. I have no interest in a mid-aged over weight man, isn't that how you explained yourself? 173 quotes? Hardly, try 5. Not that hard to copy [.quote=panther2317;109809.]then find what I wanted to quote and type [ /quote]. All the time in the world? I'm a college student, I'm on break ofcourse I have all the time in the world. I used today as a travel day to drive from George to Cedar Falls because I had a dentist apt yesterday.

Have I ever said that I don't think they are working on things? Have I ever said I don't think that Jake does s*** then just shows up on a game day and watches his team play? No! As a matter of fact I have said I support Jake and is assistants.

[clenz]

Re: I would like to set a couple things straight.

Not that it really makes any difference and I'm not supporting either side but a couple of years ago didn't the sixth man at UNC goes as the 5th pick in the draft.

They also had 2 or three people from that team picked a head of them. On that team if you started all the best players you would've had 7 starters. There was no difference between any of them. I do believe there is a difference between Coleman, Koch, and JE. I think they could all three start, if we alter the line up some, but I'm not the coach so I'll just stop there

[Back2BackCats]

Re: I would like to set a couple things straight.

It still fits the parameters of this discussion, the point is they also had "2 or 3 that weren't picked ahead of him" and he was not a starter.

[clenz]

Re: I would like to set a couple things straight.

Who on this team would take a head of Coleman?

[Back2BackCats]

Re: I would like to set a couple things straight.

No one, someone earlier said they didn't think this had ever happened before, thought this filled the bill. It's the same but different.

[DRAKELAWPANTHER]

Re: I would like to set a couple things straight.

So, 2317 - who verbally assaults anyone who offers an honest, at times negative, assessment of UNI's Basketball performance - is calling someone ELSE "narrow-minded"?

[DancerHall Cat]

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Well, you've explained it all. You're a not gay kid from George-Little Rock High School. For the record, Mr. Immaturity...I didn't accuse you of being gay. I'm laughing right now as how narrow-minded you are to think when another man says "crush" that you immediately go into homophobe-protect mode. I bet your fiance loves it when you talk about your man-crush to the guy on the Panther Nation message board.

Also, what's your major/minor? Just curious.

Thank God we have someone like this to moderate our discussions.

[UNI05Alum]

Re: I would like to set a couple things straight.

No one, someone earlier said they didn't think this had ever happened before, thought this filled the bill. It's the same but different.

Your comparison doesn't even come close to this. You are talking about a freshman 6th man who wasn't necessarily even one of the top 5 on that team at the time. He was drafted high because of his potential. There is no one on here that can honestly argue that Eric Coleman is not the best basketball player on the current UNI roster.

[UNI05Alum]

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Thank God we have someone like this to moderate our discussions.

Yeah, because straight guys that don't like to be accused of having a crush on another man are all gay-bashing homophobes...

[clenz]

Re: I would like to set a couple things straight.

Panther2317 my major is history education, along with poly sci, geography, and pretty much all the social studies.

Yeah, because straight guys that don't like to be accused of having a crush on another man are all gay-bashing homophobes...

I'm a Republican, I have to be a gay-bashing homophobe.

[Khan4Cats]

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There is no one on here that can honestly argue that Eric Coleman is not the best basketball player on the current UNI roster.

Let's see...

Can only play for short spurts because of poor conditioning, which is more on the player than any coach.

Can only go left

Has no range outside of around five feet.

Mediocre, at best, free throw shooter and this his best year at about 64%

Tendency to not have his head in the game and make silly mistakes (travelling, charges, bad passes)

Average defensively, especially against a player that can take him out to the perimeter and isolate him for a drive.

Yes, he plays with a lot of emotion (when he wants to), goes hard after rebounds (most of the time), can get on rolls when matched up on the low blocks with a slower or lighter defender, is a pretty good passer from the post (which I think has always been his best trait as long as he's not trying to fire the ball through his teammate).

Best player? I can honestly argue it, just did.

Picking a team?

I'll take JJ first and probably Koch second, I like the combination of skills they bring. If Dunham would show more confidence and actually shoot more, he would likely be third. I would then likely choose between Coleman and Eglseder and since I already know what I get with Coleman and Jordan still has a high level of potential and is only slightly behind Coleman at this point, I think I'll go with him. Then to round out the team I might like to have either a true point guard, if there is a healthy one to choose from (which would be Kwadzo) or a perimeter defender to battle the three guard line-ups we will always see in the Valley, maybe Brown or Montgomery. Then I would look for some energy and/or scoring punch to bring off the bench. Gee, does any of this sound familiar??? But nobody should EVER question the awesomeness of ERIC COLEMAN!!

[UNI05Alum]

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Let's see...

Can only play for short spurts because of poor conditioning, which is more on the player than any coach.

Can only go left

Has no range outside of around five feet.

Mediocre, at best, free throw shooter and this his best year at about 64%

Tendency to not have his head in the game and make silly mistakes (travelling, charges, bad passes)

Average defensively, especially against a player that can take him out to the perimeter and isolate him for a drive.

Yes, he plays with a lot of emotion (when he wants to), goes hard after rebounds (most of the time), can get on rolls when matched up on the low blocks with a slower or lighter defender, is a pretty good passer from the post (which I think has always been his best trait as long as he's not trying to fire the ball through his teammate).

Best player? I can honestly argue it, just did.

Picking a team?

I'll take JJ first and probably Koch second, I like the combination of skills they bring. If Dunham would show more confidence and actually shoot more, he would likely be third. I would then likely choose between Coleman and Eglseder and since I already know what I get with Coleman and Jordan still has a high level of potential and is only slightly behind Coleman at this point, I think I'll go with him. Then to round out the team I might like to have either a true point guard, if there is a healthy one to choose from (which would be Kwadzo) or a perimeter defender to battle the three guard line-ups we will always see in the Valley, maybe Brown or Montgomery. Then I would look for some energy and/or scoring punch to bring off the bench. Gee, does any of this sound familiar??? But nobody should EVER question the awesomeness of ERIC COLEMAN!!

Where were guys like you when I used to play pick up games??? Coleman would be the first pick out of our current players by nearly anyone who has played basketball. Josten AND Dunham before Coleman? Wow...I can honestly say that is baffling.

[TommyT]

Re: I would like to set a couple things straight.

Yes, Koch does have more skills than Coleman has, but does Koch make his teammates better or does Coleman? Throw out last nights near comeback when Coleman was not involved (poor conditioning) and do you think Koch brings the untangible of improving the play of his teammates the way Coleman does? Sometimes the best player for the court may not be the one who has the best skill set....and no I'm not bashing Koch.