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  • #121
    Re: Doug to Creighton

    Originally posted by Panther789 View Post
    My guess is that it wasn't much of a decision. In other words, as soon as Mac knew he was going to CU, both guys knew Doug was coming along.

    As you suggested earlier, the only reason Doug probably didn't go to ISU is that he knew it could get really messy if Greg got canned.
    i believe that is the case. so, in reality, we should just thank doug for his free publicity for UNI during the barnes recruiting saga.

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    • #122
      Re: Doug to Creighton

      Originally posted by UNIpanther99 View Post
      Dannen needs to do the right thing for UNI as others have stated, however the right thing is to release him immediately. Think of how awful UNI will look if it appears like we are trying to keep father and son apart. I understand the feeling to want to protect UNI, but we have to think about our image. We are still riding a wave of good press from the NCAA tournament, and we don't want to do anything that would tarnish that in the eyes of the national media or future recruits.
      I really don't think UNI would look bad for not allowing Doug to leave.
      UNI isn't exactly splitting atoms in terms of academics. -run&blade

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      • #123
        Re: Doug to Creighton

        Originally posted by TH1974 View Post
        UNI doesn't have to allow Doug to go.
        They already have ...
        "Try being more of the solution, and less of the problem."

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        • #124
          Re: Doug to Creighton

          Originally posted by TH1974 View Post
          I really don't think UNI would look bad for not allowing Doug to leave.
          I don't think we would look bad, but I'm not sure there is that much advantage to telling him no either. What would follow?

          1. He comes back to UNI. I'd be all for this, but it seems unlikely at this point.

          2. He sits out 2 years at CU. Not sure this does us all that much good either. He could very well be a better player from 20-24 then he would be from 18-22.

          3. He goes out of conference? Maybe this is all we could hope for.

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          • #125
            Re: Doug to Creighton

            Originally posted by Panther789 View Post
            My guess is that it wasn't much of a decision. In other words, as soon as Mac knew he was going to CU, both guys knew Doug was coming along.

            As you suggested earlier, the only reason Doug probably didn't go to ISU is that he knew it could get really messy if Greg got canned.
            Ok, let's say Doug originally signs with ISU and Greg gets fired. Doug simply follows his father to a new school or any other school. ISU would most likely release him like Iowa is doing for recruits who want to leave after Lick was fired.....That situation sounds less messy than this one don't you think?

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            • #126
              Re: Doug to Creighton

              I really don't think UNI would look bad for not allowing Doug to leave.

              I agree with you here. If anything, I think it makes Greg look underhanded for trying to take Doug with him after a LOI has already been signed, sealed, and delivered.

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              • #127
                Re: Doug to Creighton

                Originally posted by Panther789 View Post
                I don't think we would look bad, but I'm not sure there is that much advantage to telling him no either.
                I agree with that.
                UNI isn't exactly splitting atoms in terms of academics. -run&blade

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                • #128
                  Re: Doug to Creighton

                  Originally posted by 4N6 View Post
                  They already have ...
                  obviously....
                  UNI isn't exactly splitting atoms in terms of academics. -run&blade

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                  • #129
                    Re: Doug to Creighton

                    Originally posted by Panther789 View Post
                    I don't think we would look bad, but I'm not sure there is that much advantage to telling him no either. What would follow?

                    1. He comes back to UNI. I'd be all for this, but it seems unlikely at this point.

                    2. He sits out 2 years at CU. Not sure this does us all that much good either. He could very well be a better player from 20-24 then he would be from 18-22.

                    3. He goes out of conference? Maybe this is all we could hope for.
                    I think the rule means you only have 2 years of playing eligibility...not that you sit out 2 years and then play 4.

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                    • #130
                      Re: Doug to Creighton

                      Originally posted by MediaPanther View Post
                      Ok, let's say Doug originally signs with ISU and Greg gets fired. Doug simply follows his father to a new school or any other school. ISU would most likely release him like Iowa is doing for recruits who want to leave after Lick was fired.....That situation sounds less messy than this one don't you think?
                      Possibly. I was assuming Greg would get fired sometime after Doug had played. Under that scenario, he has to sit out a year right?

                      I get the feeling that isn't going to happen here, but time will tell. If he doesn't, I really don't think its all that messy on his end.

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                      • #131
                        Re: Doug to Creighton

                        Originally posted by 4N6 View Post
                        They already have ...
                        No they haven't. Please read the thread.

                        Originally posted by MediaPanther View Post
                        Ok, let's say Doug originally signs with ISU and Greg gets fired. Doug simply follows his father to a new school or any other school. ISU would most likely release him like Iowa is doing for recruits who want to leave after Lick was fired.....That situation sounds less messy than this one don't you think?
                        Not really. At least one of those kids Iowa released is very upset right now as it turns out he can't accept a scholarship from another Big Ten school.

                        In terms of UNI "looking bad," we can't force Doug to play for UNI. That can't be said enough. UNI is not going to force him to play in CF. We can, however, enforce the restrictions on his transfer. That is done by schools all the time and does not affect their "image" at all.

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                        • #132
                          Re: Doug to Creighton

                          Originally posted by UNIpanther99 View Post
                          Dannen needs to do the right thing for UNI as others have stated, however the right thing is to release him immediately. Think of how awful UNI will look if it appears like we are trying to keep father and son apart. I understand the feeling to want to protect UNI, but we have to think about our image. We are still riding a wave of good press from the NCAA tournament, and we don't want to do anything that would tarnish that in the eyes of the national media or future recruits.

                          It totally sucks for us, but we have to bite the bullet, take this, and move on. Doug McDermott is a great player, but he is only one player on a team. We still have the right coach for us, some amazing players returning, and recruiting is looking very good for us.

                          All that said, here's hoping we continue to kick Creighton's butt for many years to come.
                          Ditto: UNI is in a no win situation.

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                          • #133
                            Re: Doug to Creighton

                            Originally posted by Newsbreaker View Post
                            No they haven't. Please read the thread.


                            We can, however, enforce the restrictions on his transfer. That is done by schools all the time and does not affect their "image" at all.
                            Assuming we can and do, what do you think happens with Doug?

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                            • #134
                              Re: Doug to Creighton

                              Originally posted by Panther789 View Post
                              I don't think we would look bad, but I'm not sure there is that much advantage to telling him no either. What would follow?

                              1. He comes back to UNI. I'd be all for this, but it seems unlikely at this point.

                              2. He sits out 2 years at CU. Not sure this does us all that much good either. He could very well be a better player from 20-24 then he would be from 18-22.

                              3. He goes out of conference? Maybe this is all we could hope for.
                              He could only redshirt one of those seasons, then sit one he would be a redshirt sophmore when he gets to play.

                              If we don't let Doug out of his LOI then Greg goes and makes UNI look like the bad guy, in his arrogant, two faced way.

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                              • #135
                                Re: Doug to Creighton

                                Originally posted by Panther789 View Post
                                Assuming we can and do, what do you think happens with Doug?
                                To be honest it doesn't matter much, because the bridge will be burned.

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