Who wants to play in Carver next week?

[hoopfan]

Re: Who wants to play in Carver next week?

UNI refuses to travel without a return game, whats the difference?

minnesota would gladly play us in the twin cities. people scream and yell when i suggest that UNI simply play iowa or ISU on the road.

instead we opt for Loras or whomever. its the exact same thing.

You are exactly right, there is no difference, but the Power 6 schools can schedule cupcakes because they can boost their RPI/BPI/KenPom or whatever metric you find convenient in conference games. Mid-majors don't have that luxury. They have to take chances scheduling. UNI did this year and it didn't work out so they are now in the CIT. It's a fine line for mid-majors, not so much for the Power 6 schools.

[9YRPLAN]

Re: Who wants to play in Carver next week?

You are exactly right, there is no difference, but the Power 6 schools can schedule cupcakes because they can boost their RPI/BPI/KenPom or whatever metric you find convenient in conference games. Mid-majors don't have that luxury. They have to take chances scheduling. UNI did this year and it didn't work out so they are now in the CIT. It's a fine line for mid-majors, not so much for the Power 6 schools.

how many mid majors with a chance to win the NCAA's have ever been left out? if you have a good season, you are rewarded. i dont know why everything has to be fair. if you think you are getting screwed, then win your conference or move up like Creighton.

[Codytwo]

Re: Who wants to play in Carver next week?

how many mid majors with a chance to win the NCAA's have ever been left out? if you have a good season, you are rewarded. i dont know why everything has to be fair. if you think you are getting screwed, then win your conference or move up like Creighton.

That's a bad question. VCU was a final four team that came from the first four round. One year earlier and they would have been left out of the tournament.

[06panther10]

how many mid majors with a chance to win the NCAA's have ever been left out? if you have a good season, you are rewarded. i dont know why everything has to be fair. if you think you are getting screwed, then win your conference or move up like Creighton.

Pretty ridiculous question. How would we know? People were outraged a couple years ago when VCU made it into the tournament, and they made the final four.

How is that relevant anyhow? Do sub .500 BCS'ers have a chance to win the tournament? Did they have a "good season" worth rewarding?

[9YRPLAN]

Re: Who wants to play in Carver next week?

That's a bad question. VCU was a final four team that came from the first four round. One year earlier and they would have been left out of the tournament.

so you are telling me that they fixed the problem?

[9YRPLAN]

Re: Who wants to play in Carver next week?

Pretty ridiculous question. How would we know? People were outraged a couple years ago when VCU made it into the tournament, and they made the final four.

How is that relevant anyhow? Do sub .500 BCS'ers have a chance to win the tournament? Did they have a "good season" worth rewarding?

UVA beat some great teams this year. how can you justify leaving them out?

yes, as a general rule, the nature of the conference schedule means that most BCS teams have a harder schedule. not always, but mostly.

[06panther10]

UVA beat some great teams this year. how can you justify leaving them out?

yes, as a general rule, the nature of the conference schedule means that most BCS teams have a harder schedule. not always, but mostly.

I can justify it from their pitiful non-conf schedule and a slew of brutal losses.

[9YRPLAN]

Re: Who wants to play in Carver next week?

I can justify it from their pitiful non-conf schedule and a slew of brutal losses.

which is the entire problem.

it should be "overall strength of schedule" if we want to be fair.

[06panther10]

which is the entire problem.

it should be "overall strength of schedule" if we want to be fair.

Which was what exactly? I doubt it is great.

And I'm not speaking just of the OOC sched anyway. They had some brutal losses in their league.

[Panther-Sheik]

Re: Who wants to play in Carver next week?

UNI refuses to travel without a return game, whats the difference?

minnesota would gladly play us in the twin cities. people scream and yell when i suggest that UNI simply play iowa or ISU on the road.

instead we opt for Loras or whomever. its the exact same thing.

UNI and all of us fans deserve to actually have some out of conference home games, too. We can't bend over and just play road games because the "men" tell us that is how it is going to be done. The system is flawed but for the big boys to now complain that the deck is somehow stacked against them, and that the mid-majors are somehow basking in the benefits is very laughable.

[dan_beeding]

Re: Who wants to play in Carver next week?

Iowa fans just need to be comfortable with the fact that they are essentially Oregon State Midwest. Not Duke or Alabama. Until that happens, we get to listen to them talk about getting hosed in every sport when in reality, they are a mediocre athletic program that is propped up by the success of those in their conference.

[9YRPLAN]

Re: Who wants to play in Carver next week?

Iowa fans just need to be comfortable with the fact that they are essentially Oregon State Midwest. Not Duke or Alabama. Until that happens, we get to listen to them talk about getting hosed in every sport when in reality, they are a mediocre athletic program that is propped up by the success of those in their conference.

once again, no one is saying iowa got screwed. but if people keep saying that, i will start busting about a half-dozen unbiased statistical measurements that say they (along with several other high majors) did. ive been trying to hold off in an effort to have an objective conversation.

also, dont tell me that UNI cant schedule low major teams at home. they just refuse to pay for them.

i dont have an answer, i just think its a worthwhile discussion.

[BCPanther]

Re: Who wants to play in Carver next week?

The system is broken and its only going to get worse.

[Panther-Sheik]

Re: Who wants to play in Carver next week?

also, dont tell me that UNI cant schedule low major teams at home. they just refuse to pay for them.

i dont have an answer, i just think its a worthwhile discussion.

What is a low major? I don't think I've heard that before.

[hoopfan]

Re: Who wants to play in Carver next week?

What is a low major? I don't think I've heard that before.

See Iowa's OOC schedule for definition of low major.