Next Year

[BCPanther]

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UNI's total athletic budget is 16-18 million in expenses depending on the year

Most recent data for top schools expenses?

Texas 154m
Michigan 142m
Auburn 126m
Wisconsin 125m
LSU 122m
Alabama 120m
Penn State 117m
Ohio State 113m
Oklahoma 113m
Oregon 110m
Florida 109m
Okie State 109m
Michigan State 107m
Minnesota 106m
Tennessee 106m
Iowa 102m

That's the top 15. They are all, minimum, 6.25 times UNI's budget.

Minnesota should be embarrassed by their ROI. That's awful.

[UNIAlum95]

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Of course we aren't able to entice recruits with drugs and hookers like Louisville and no doubt some other big money schools, but I think that comes out of the black bag budget, not the official budget.

This is so funny, sad, and true at the same time. I do not want to see UNI sell itself out just to win basketball games. Duke had given up its academic standards to win national titles. I'll take the good hard working young men that we bring in every year who want to be part of a team every day over a win at all cost approach. I may be in the minority but I wouldn't have traded Paul, Wes, or Bo for any juco all American even if it meant going further in the dance.

[95UNIGRAD]

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UNI's total athletic budget is 16-18 million in expenses depending on the year

Most recent data for top schools expenses?

Texas 154m
Michigan 142m
Auburn 126m
Wisconsin 125m
LSU 122m
Alabama 120m
Penn State 117m
Ohio State 113m
Oklahoma 113m
Oregon 110m
Florida 109m
Okie State 109m
Michigan State 107m
Minnesota 106m
Tennessee 106m
Iowa 102m

That's the top 15. They are all, minimum, 6.25 times UNI's budget.

I was more comparing basketball to basketball, like you did in your earlier post. I'm definitely not someone you need to convince that we're doing much more with much less, though. It's truly remarkable.

[Pantherwoman]

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I'm accepting monetary gifts for our athletic program. Please pm me if interested.

[SteinPizza]

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Really, Stein? Because it really seems like you often are. I really don't even know what point you are trying to make any more, it sure seems like you just enjoy tearing things down at every turn.

Maybe its you who needs the perspective. UNI is routinely out-performing schools and programs with budgets roughly 5-10 times the size of ours. Maybe the fact that many of those P5 schools mentioned have struggled so much to win despite virtually endless resources should clue you into just how impossibly difficult it is to win PERIOD, let alone at at school like UNI.

I don't need perspective on anything vis a vie this board, thank you kindly.

We'll all just have to agree to disagree, I guess. I place little to no value on the "we do less with more" argument. It's nice, but it doesn't actually win games. I'm comparing UNI to other schools in terms of on the court results, level of player they attract, etc., not budgetary efficiency. Sure, we do very well for a low budget team. But, there aren't separate divisions segregated by resources. In basketball, we're just as DI as Kentucky, Duke or Wichita State, and that's who you're competing against at a national level. Utimately, what I most care most about is national reputation (which is pretty good and getting better) wins against national level competition, and national exposure.

Sure, it's harder for us to get, but there's also zero reason for the NCAA to grant us a handicap if we play a blue blood. Real life doesn't work that way, so why should sports? You're weren't throwing out a woe is me, give me 10 points type argument, so not trying to insinuate that. Just letting you know where a I stand. If we disagree, so be it.

[Panther100]

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We could consider playing some games on Friday Night to get on ESPN2. What committee members watch us Saturday Night on ESPN3? Not to mention that non Division I game that needs to be an exhibition. No, I haven't emailed Coach.

[UNIAlum95]

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We could consider playing some games on Friday Night to get on ESPN2. What committee members watch us Saturday Night on ESPN3? Not to mention that non Division I game that needs to be an exhibition. No, I haven't emailed Coach.

What a great suggestion. Why hasn't this been bright up before?

[OhNewby]

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It'll either be Morgan or McDuffie. My guess is Morgan gets it because he's a senior.

It's just amazing to me that we had back-to-back years of winning the Valley tourney, back-to-back years of making it to the final 32 in the NCAA tourney, lost 5 seniors last year (including POY), lose 3 seniors this year....and low and behold, we have probably the preseason POY next year. The depth of talent that Jake has brought into this program is mind-blowing.

[MernerAve]

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@OhNewby You make a fantastic point here. Amen to what has been created and continues to build.

[English77]

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I place little to no value on the "we do less with more" argument. It's nice, but it doesn't actually win games.

Seems like that's exactly what "we do less with more" means, so its having negligible value seems odd.

[Panther100]

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What a great suggestion. Why hasn't this been bright up before?

Yes, it started the WAR...

[Trapped in California]

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I don't need perspective on anything vis a vie this board, thank you kindly.

We'll all just have to agree to disagree, I guess. I place little to no value on the "we do less with more" argument. It's nice, but it doesn't actually win games. I'm comparing UNI to other schools in terms of on the court results, level of player they attract, etc., not budgetary efficiency. Sure, we do very well for a low budget team. But, there aren't separate divisions segregated by resources. In basketball, we're just as DI as Kentucky, Duke or Wichita State, and that's who you're competing against at a national level. Utimately, what I most care most about is national reputation (which is pretty good and getting better) wins against national level competition, and national exposure.

Sure, it's harder for us to get, but there's also zero reason for the NCAA to grant us a handicap if we play a blue blood. Real life doesn't work that way, so why should sports? You're weren't throwing out a woe is me, give me 10 points type argument, so not trying to insinuate that. Just letting you know where a I stand. If we disagree, so be it.

A simple change to the RPI calculation to increase the value of wins away and decrease the value of home wins would care of the budget difference rather quickly (if the committee kept valuing the RPI).

[BCPanther]

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A simple change to the RPI calculation to increase the value of wins away and decrease the value of home wins would care of the budget difference rather quickly (if the committee kept valuing the RPI).

They already did that. Road wins get a 1.4 multiplier. Home wins get a .6 multiplier.

[Username]

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It's just amazing to me that we had back-to-back years of winning the Valley tourney, back-to-back years of making it to the final 32 in the NCAA tourney, lost 5 seniors last year (including POY), lose 3 seniors this year....and low and behold, we have probably the preseason POY next year. The depth of talent that Jake has brought into this program is mind-blowing.

And maybe Carlson after that. It is absolutely incredible. Not a team in the nation that wouldn't take Morgan, and Iowa fans scoffed at the thought of Carlson even sitting on Rutgers bench. Can't believe people bash Jake's recruiting. Even between 10-14 he was still competitive winning .500 or 20 games. Sure I wouldn't mind a transfer here and there for that extra push, but Jake's always been about developing.

[Trapped in California]

They already did that. Road wins get a 1.4 multiplier. Home wins get a .6 multiplier.

tweak it a bit more

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