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  • Originally posted by A Fan In Lean Years View Post

    However, you criticize UNI football. I criticize no UNI team. I simply am trying to get to the bottom of the collective false perception among "fans" and why they see 61% as more successful than 65%.
    Not even sure why I engage but let's try this simple question. Nick Saban's win % at Alabama is around 87%. If there is a D2 basketball coach that has a win percentage of 94%, is there any argument that Nick Saban is doing a better job at Alabama than Coach John Doe is running the Northwest State basketball program?

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    • Originally posted by Panther Fan View Post

      Not even sure why I engage but let's try this simple question. Nick Saban's win % at Alabama is around 87%. If there is a D2 basketball coach that has a win percentage of 94%, is there any argument that Nick Saban is doing a better job at Alabama than Coach John Doe is running the Northwest State basketball program?
      Got me on that one, my man! Why, there's NO better comparison than comparing a Division I coach with a budget as high as the heavens to a Division II coach who, comparatively, barely gets by.

      WOWZA!
      Last edited by A Fan In Lean Years; 07-07-2021, 12:29 PM.

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      • Originally posted by A Fan In Lean Years View Post

        However, you criticize UNI football. I criticize no UNI team. I simply am trying to get to the bottom of the collective false perception among "fans" and why they see 61% as more successful than 65%.
        This topic has been a source of engagement with you and others on this board (and not even me so much) many, many times now. The sources of disagreement have been gone over many, many times with you. It is no one's fault that you cannot understand why other posters continually disagree with you.

        Please tell me why it's perfectly acceptable for you to continually criticize the UNI basketball program, even when additional context is provided to you (since you have openly admitted that you don't follow basketball much) and still consider yourself a UNI super fan, yet you think anyone who feels that UNI football has noticeably declined in recent seasons, something that has borne out by the win-loss records and lack of consistent playoff berths, is somehow lacking in their fandom.

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        • Originally posted by UNIChippewa View Post

          This topic has been a source of engagement with you and others on this board (and not even me so much) many, many times now. The sources of disagreement have been gone over many, many times with you. It is no one's fault that you cannot understand why other posters continually disagree with you.

          Please tell me why it's perfectly acceptable for you to continually criticize the UNI basketball program, even when additional context is provided to you (since you have openly admitted that you don't follow basketball much) and still consider yourself a UNI super fan, yet you think anyone who feels that UNI football has noticeably declined in recent seasons, something that has borne out by the win-loss records and lack of consistent playoff berths, is somehow lacking in their fandom.
          Simple answer: if you notice the nuance to my posts, you'd notice that I'm using the exact same "arguments" that people make against football, even though I don't buy one of the "arguments."

          Had you been able to notice nuance I'm fascinated by collective perceptions (life in general, as well), and particularly one's that are either false or uninformed. So, I can't get over how the basketball team, led by Jacobson, is perceived to be rocking it and "worth every penny we pay," while the football team is dismal, yet the football team has significantly outperformed the basketball team. You'd also notice, had you the ability to, that I don't sit on here live during basketball games and begin criticizing the opening introductions to the team until them walking off the court. And, I don't incessantly say, "yeah, but..." when the basketball team wins because I'm always happy with a win. You, by contrast, are not.

          You'd be hard pressed to find any DIRECT criticism of a UNI team or coach by myself.

          Just fascinated by collective perceptions, particularly false ones, my friend.
          Last edited by A Fan In Lean Years; 07-07-2021, 12:45 PM.

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          • Originally posted by UNIChippewa View Post

            This topic has been a source of engagement with you and others on this board (and not even me so much) many, many times now. The sources of disagreement have been gone over many, many times with you. It is no one's fault that you cannot understand why other posters continually disagree with you.

            Please tell me why it's perfectly acceptable for you to continually criticize the UNI basketball program, even when additional context is provided to you (since you have openly admitted that you don't follow basketball much) and still consider yourself a UNI super fan, yet you think anyone who feels that UNI football has noticeably declined in recent seasons, something that has borne out by the win-loss records and lack of consistent playoff berths, is somehow lacking in their fandom.
            To be fair this person doesn't follow football either so they are equally uninformed about the performance of both programs. I guess that levels the field in their mind so they can continue to talk about basic mathematics rather than the point everyone else is making regarding program trajectories in the last decade. It is clearly a pointless exercise to debate.
            If computers ruled college basketball the way they do football, we'd have skipped all this March Madness monotony and just waited a month for the Kansas-Kentucky title game. And watched Northern Iowa play Cornell in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl. ~ Dwight Perry The Seattle Times

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            • Originally posted by UNIAlum95 View Post

              To be fair this person doesn't follow football either so they are equally uninformed about the performance of both programs. I guess that levels the field in their mind so they can continue to talk about basic mathematics rather than the point everyone else is making regarding program trajectories in the last decade. It is clearly a pointless exercise to debate.
              False. I stated before that I don't follow college basketball as a whole, but I DO follow UNI basketball. Not going to games doesn't mean that I don't follow them.

              False. I follow college football more than I do college basketball, and follow UNI football as much as I do UNI basketball.

              Assuming that I didn't follow the UNI teams, would the winning percentage numbers be different, ma'am?

              I'll leave the, "to be fair" irony for the readers to marvel at. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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              • Originally posted by A Fan In Lean Years View Post

                False. I stated before that I don't follow college basketball as a whole, but I DO follow UNI basketball. Not going to games doesn't mean that I don't follow them.

                False. I follow college football more than I do college basketball, and follow UNI football as much as I do UNI basketball.

                Assuming that I didn't follow the UNI teams, would the winning percentage numbers be different, ma'am?

                I'll leave the, "to be fair" irony for the readers to marvel at. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                Interesting because you didn't even know who won the games the football team played this spring. I can clearly see what kind of fan you are.
                If computers ruled college basketball the way they do football, we'd have skipped all this March Madness monotony and just waited a month for the Kansas-Kentucky title game. And watched Northern Iowa play Cornell in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl. ~ Dwight Perry The Seattle Times

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                • Originally posted by UNIAlum95 View Post

                  Interesting because you didn't even know who won the games the football team played this spring. I can clearly see what kind of fan you are.
                  Why, yes, I'm a fan in lean years. Something that we can't say about you, but we digress here, don't we?

                  Oh, yes, I knew and you knew HOW I knew! I have FULL intention of "following" the few games that I'll miss this season utilizing my same method. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                  • Originally posted by A Fan In Lean Years View Post

                    Why, yes, I'm a fan in lean years. Something that we can't say about you, but we digress here, don't we?

                    Oh, yes, I knew and you knew HOW I knew! I have FULL intention of "following" the few games that I'll miss this season utilizing my same method. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                    There's not a coherent thought in this response so I'm moving on. Take care.
                    If computers ruled college basketball the way they do football, we'd have skipped all this March Madness monotony and just waited a month for the Kansas-Kentucky title game. And watched Northern Iowa play Cornell in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl. ~ Dwight Perry The Seattle Times

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                    • Originally posted by UNIAlum95 View Post

                      There's not a coherent thought in this response so I'm moving on. Take care.
                      Of course you are...of course you are.

                      PLENTY of coherence, my friend. You just didn't like how I one-upped you and everyone on game days. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                      • Originally posted by UNIAlum95 View Post

                        There's not a coherent thought in this response so I'm moving on. Take care.
                        Yep. Time for someone else to join Mudra on my "ignore" list.

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                        • Originally posted by UNIChippewa View Post

                          Yep. Time for someone else to join Mudra on my "ignore" list.
                          Cancel culture.

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                          • Originally posted by A Fan In Lean Years View Post

                            False. I stated before that I don't follow college basketball as a whole, but I DO follow UNI basketball. Not going to games doesn't mean that I don't follow them.

                            False. I follow college football more than I do college basketball, and follow UNI football as much as I do UNI basketball.

                            Assuming that I didn't follow the UNI teams, would the winning percentage numbers be different, ma'am?

                            I'll leave the, "to be fair" irony for the readers to marvel at. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                            When you don't know what injury the best player in program history had that caused him to miss a full season it's clear that "follow" means checking the win loss record. Which is totally fine, just no need to go on with this charade.

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                            • Originally posted by A Fan In Lean Years View Post

                              Got me on that one, my man! Why, there's NO better comparison than comparing a Division I coach with a budget as high as the heavens to a Division II coach who, comparatively, barely gets by.

                              WOWZA!
                              Farley has one of the top budgets in FCS, while Jake's is middle of the road in D1 at best. So in reality it's not all that far fetched of a comparison.

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                              • Originally posted by DownGoesKansas View Post

                                When you don't know what injury the best player in program history had that caused him to miss a full season it's clear that "follow" means checking the win loss record. Which is totally fine, just no need to go on with this charade.
                                See post #140 in this thread, Columbio. A clever trick I learned a long time ago. Folks, such as yisself, always fall for it. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                My favorite way to find a UNI football score though is to just look at the size of a gameday thread, after the game is over. Several pages=fair-weather fans calling for Farley's job. Few pages=UNI victory, with ZERO celebration from "fans" such as yisself. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                Last edited by A Fan In Lean Years; 07-09-2021, 11:14 AM.

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